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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

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China <insert>government</insert>has spoken, and it has said ".cn"!
for the record I don't care either way. I wasn't brave enough to get either in any quantities that matter.
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Its pretty obvious the Chinese government would "push" .cn over .com. Why? One simple word. Control.

And no, I'm not saying whether that makes .cn or .com more valuable. Arguments both ways on that one!
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You put things in an absolutely ridiculous way. It was you that was first saying my post was ridiculous while I was only talking about some truth.
Hmm, absolutely. You appear to forget though that this thread is a formal record of what you have actually said, not what you think you said or would like to have said.

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I refuse to be quoted by you next time. Fair enough?!
Yes, of course. I'm just sorry that you've not been able to consider the simple facts, rather than getting all 'het up' and frustrated.

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As a Chinese (Mainland Chinese citizen, to be more accurate), I am proud of .cn, perhaps more than anyone else here.
"Promoting idn.idn (.中国) is like trainning a baby to run". I'm not sure what 'trainning' means, but if you mean 'training' then you certainly are not proud of .cn. For, idn.idn IS .cn and a statement like the one you gave shows your disrespect for China's national domain!

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And I won't discuss anything further with you before you start show some respects to others. Fair enough?!
Respects?! You may well mean 'respect', but again you surely have no idea what this word means. You say you are Chinese, and so there may be some English words you don't understand very well; perhaps you're frustrated at not knowing English very well and this causes you to vent your anger on others?

In any event, I am more than happy for you not to respond to me anymore, in fact I would prefer that... so please don't do it :-)
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

@blackops check your PM
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You are absolutely behaving like a kid. Yes I did have some typos in my post, but show your Chinese skills to me, show your understanding towards Chinese domains to me. Fair enough?

It was you that got frustrated at my post about some truth, even though it was apparantly not against you. You apparantly have something wrong.

Do not quote me. Don't you understand English?
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Well said

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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

Too many posts

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Do I get a prize for spotting a thread that is about to be closed?
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

there are more important things in life.

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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

there are more important things in life.
Mods, please remove all my posts in this thread, including these quoted by blackops. Thanks.

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No hard feelings Markits, I genuinely wish you well.. but I would like to hear from other idn'ers out there who do want to comment on what this thread is actually about.

Thanks,
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Just to clarify, the domain did break the rules...
How do you tell the domain breaks the rules? Even people at CNNIC have difficulties deciding which domain is too sexy and which one is not.

性.cn [sex], 性趣.cn [sex fun], 阴茎.cn [penis], 性爱.cn [sex], 裸.cn [naked], 裸体.cn [naked or nude]... + many more are all taken.

These domains are all too sexy in my opinion, but they're still allowed. Why not yours?

Why can't you just disclose the domain you lost?
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

  您请求的中文域名 色情小说.cn 尚未注册或不可达。您可以点击这里了解域名注册信息或点击这里注册此域名。
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

Basically if a keyword or phrase has 800,000 or more monthly searches in China, I'm interested. But NOW I check it in Baidu, to see if (IMAGE) results come up, if not, I won't bother registering the .cn, because if Baidu doesn't like it, CNNIC probably doesn't like it either. Lesson learned.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...BoqGtAOk__CoCQ
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

lol i have that in com if you want it phio (trad) and it's looking like its variant blocking the simplified
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

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  您请求的中文域名 色情小说.cn 尚未注册或不可达。您可以点击这里了解域名注册信息或点击这里注册此域名。
I don't understand why they allow 情色小说.cn but don't allow 色情小说.cn.

情色小说 and 色情小说 are basically the same thing. people in HK, Taiwan and overseas tend to say 色情小说 while mainlanders 情色小说.

It doesn't make any sense!

Write a letter to CNNIC to ask for an explanation.
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

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I don't understand why they allow 情色小说.cn but don't allow 色情小说.cn.

情色小说 and 色情小说 are basically the same thing. people in HK, Taiwan and overseas tend to say 色情小说 while mainlanders 情色小说.

It doesn't make any sense!

Write a letter to CNNIC to ask for an explanation.
Thanks for pointing that out. I will seriously think about writing them a letter. And if the domain changes hands, I will absolutely write to them.

I think there must be a fine line between allowable and not allowable.
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

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I think there must be a fine line between allowable and not allowable.
Agreed. Of course, the domain should not change hands at all but a letter from them, explaining their decision making process, would be worthwhile and interesting...
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

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I don't understand why they allow 情色小说.cn but don't allow 色情小说.cn.

情色小说 and 色情小说 are basically the same thing. people in HK, Taiwan and overseas tend to say 色情小说 while mainlanders 情色小说.

It doesn't make any sense!

Write a letter to CNNIC to ask for an explanation.
It is better back up your statement with facts.

Baidu SERPs: "情色小说" 141,000 "色情小说" 11,000,000
Baidu Index: "情色小说" 5233 "色情小说" 19720 (for the season)

Google.cn SERPs: "情色小说" 760,000 "色情小说" 3,530,000
Google Trends (in China): 情色小说 0.68 色情小说 1.00

It is clear that 色情小说 is used much more often than 情色小说 in China. CNNIC may simply ignored the alternative way to express 色情小说. The data may contain websites in HK and Taiwan, but that should not change the overall picture.

This is really common sense in China.

phio, you'd better save your time in writing the letter.
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Re: Just lost a .cn domain

Kid, you are too young to know the history of Chinese words!

We Overseas Chinese don't say 情色小说, but mainlanders do.

The mainlanders use 色情小说 more and more because of the influence of the movies, videos, books and magazines from Japan and overseas. The captions on erotic movies and videos are all in Traditional Chinese and dubbed mostly in HK.

Just like real estate terms 楼市, 买楼, 按揭 and other fashional terms 买单... are so popular in China now that people don't even know they are actually imported words from overseas.

When I say Overseas Chinese tend to use 色情小说 or Traditional Chinese, I don't means 色情小说 or Traditional Chinese belong to the Overseas Chinese only. 色情小说 or Traditional Chinese were used in China long before most mainlanders can even remember.
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