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Old 24th June 2009, 12:17 AM
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ICANN Sydney

Make sure you watch the idn part @ the gnso meeting (now in progress)

http://syd.icann.org/node/3787

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Re: ICANN Sydney

It's open mic time now (I think) so you can post your questions in the Q&A window
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Re: ICANN Sydney

GNSO meeting has finished.

ccNSO meeting is going all day

http://syd.icann.org/node/3799

Presentations:
Main Principles of Opening of Registration in the New National Domain .РФ

http://syd.icann.org/files/meetings/...24jun09-en.pdf
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Re: ICANN Sydney

ccNSO Council meeting in just over 4 hours time.

http://syd.icann.org/node/3861

Might be worth watching/listening.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

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Presentations:
Main Principles of Opening of Registration in the New National Domain .РФ

http://syd.icann.org/files/meetings/...24jun09-en.pdf
Page 2:

"– The RF Government’s endorsement is expected in June –July 2009"

Dress nice cause it's about to start.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

Public forum is firing up right now, I believe...

http://syd.icann.org/node/3785

IDN's about 3 hours into it.

First up is IRT which is also important - another extra-legal power grab by the TM people.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

Good plea from http://icannwiki.org/George_Sadowsky http://pws.prserv.net/sadowsky/ during the IRT session calling them to not delay IDN TLD's due to TM worries.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

A new Chinese organisation has surface that I haven't seen at ICANN before - CONAC

Some form of IGO or something?
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Re: ICANN Sydney

IDN discussion starting now....
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Re: ICANN Sydney

STOP THE PRESSES!

Not sure I heard it right (need to check the transcript when it is made available) but the Japanese Govt MIGHT be going to tender out the running of the japanese IDN ccTLD, and that JPNIC may not get to be manager.

Possibly due to the govt not being happy about the cost of current .jp's and the way they are managed.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

It might have been this guy speaking...

http://syd.icann.org/files/meetings/...22jun09-en.txt

>>IZUMI AIZU: Thank you. My name is Izumi Aizu. I am at-large from
Japan. I have perhaps two naive questions and a comment, mostly on the
costs.

The background is that in Japan we are working to have some kind of
open process with the government, initiating a panel to select the new
IDN ccTLD registry, including the existing TLD to apply for.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

Now online here: http://syd.icann.org/video Watch the GNSO Meeting part 1
IDN Part starting around 1:22:00

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Re: ICANN Sydney

Transcript of the public forum is now up...

http://syd.icann.org/files/meetings/...25jun09-en.txt

>>IZUMI AIZU: Izumi Aizu. This is my 33rd ICANN meeting. I'm a
member of the at-large community but speaking only for myself. Before
that, James Seng took all the lead, technically, in the IETF working
group with IDNs, so thanks to the staff, but thanks to James we are now
ready on the IDN ccTLD implementation.

And maybe to touch upon the JPA/IIC, I'd like to share some of the
following facts and my observations.

In the preparation for the new IDN TLD in Japan, a formal expert panel
was hosted by the Ministry of Communications, with a series of hearings
from stakeholders, and reached the consensus with many public comments
considered, and the final report was published this month which
proposes to set up a new body, Internet Domain Name Council, in Japan.

The government will ask this council to establish an open bidding
process for which the IDN ccTLD registry will be selected by a new 12
selection committee, and that result will be reported to government.
In turn, the government will hopefully endorse this to ICANN.

So this new IDN ccTLD will not automatically be given to the existing
ASCII ccTLD operator, although they can also apply for.

So we will have multiple ccTLD operators for competition perhaps for
better services in Japan and this new council is also likely to become
the auditor for the continued operation of this new ccTLD.

Yes, it's a bit complex, but we are having sort of a local framework,
governance framework, of both the existing -- hopefully -- and new
ccTLD, and with that, that is sort of a mini-ICANN kind framework,
government participating. Not talking about IP addresses, so it could
be half of mini-ICANN. But with this framework locally placed, I hope
this will also sort of contribute to the enhanced accountability which
is not only globally exercised, but if we have a local solid base
amongst all the participating stakeholders, which will hopefully give a
better solid framework for the global ICANN as well. Thank you.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

I blame JPNIC's horrendous complicated registration system for causing this, BTW.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

As long as the proposed managment change does not affect grandfathering and it should not.

Did you hear Steve Del Bianco? (Netchoice.org which represents Verisign,Yahoo,Ebay,Skype and others.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

Yes, I'm glad he spoke, but he has to realize that equalizing the release of IDNcctld and IDNgtld, could cause the companies he represents problems.
If the delay is stretched out past another year (because of this or any other reason) some countries may well get fed up with it and create their own internet. If Japan does this, and decides not to let Yahoo in on it, Yahoo.jp will be out many millions (perhaps billions) in annual revenue. That's why it is imperative to release IDNcctlds very quickly, and people with 'delay' as their middle name should not be let in as volunteers to any of the Working Groups.
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Yep, looks like a total train wreck that can only help dot Com.

Japan wants its own ICANN? That sounds like a recipe for disaster!
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Re: ICANN Sydney

Wishful thinking...
As stated in the video, it is the 1st time in ICANN history that the ccnso and gnso will form a mutual WG to push a mutual interest.
If they even will and if they will take the logical route of not only working together but also allowing the gtld registries to subsidize the cctld's cost issues and by that prevent additional time delays and also prevent issues with neither being disadvantaged by being added to the root prior to the other.

I think at this point with IDN's almost @ the 10th year anniversary and the multiple government increasing pressure they also understand the crucial and pressing need to finally add them to the root.

IMO it will be parallel and the gtld will be released with the fast track cctlds (i.e when .рф for Russia and .бг for Bulgaria are added to the root , .ком will also be added where in this specific example .ком is identical for both Russia and Bulgaria.
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Re: ICANN Sydney

I personally believe that dot RF will hit the street about three months in front of dot KOM, but I believe that Verisign will pick up as many as twenty languages and implement them together, so that slower Fast Tracks will come in behind the IDN dot coms. It is going to be an unseemly scrap for the finish line. I think if the Japanese want to delay their ccTLD, that will be view as their prerogative.

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As stated in the video, it is the 1st time in ICANN history that the ccnso and gnso will form a mutual WG to push a mutual interest.
If they even will and if they will take the logical route of not only working together but also allowing the gtld registries to subsidize the cctld's cost issues and by that prevent additional time delays and also prevent issues with neither being disadvantaged by being added to the root prior to the other.

I think at this point with IDN's almost @ the 10th year anniversary and the multiple government increasing pressure they also understand the crucial and pressing need to finally add them to the root.

IMO it will be parallel and the gtld will be released with the fast track cctlds (i.e when .рф for Russia and .бг for Bulgaria are added to the root , .ком will also be added where in this specific example .ком is identical for both Russia and Bulgaria.
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IMO it will be parallel and the gtld will be released with the fast track cctlds (i.e when .рф for Russia and .бг for Bulgaria are added to the root , .ком will also be added where in this specific example .ком is identical for both Russia and Bulgaria.
Assuming Verisign gets .ком, how will this affect existing .com holders for Bulgarian and Russian IDNs. I know it's been discussed before, but haven't heard any new news on this lately.
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