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Old 22nd August 2009, 01:58 AM
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Namedrive SUCKS!

I know its one of the few spots around...but this is ridiculous.
They need to learn to share, a little bit more.

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фильмыонлайн.com US$ 0.23 60 23 38.33 US$ 0.01

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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

well said. planning to do the same...
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Old 22nd August 2009, 02:21 AM
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

I don't know how much they are sharing, but an average 1 cent per click isn't that bad at all for Russian traffic. It shows even worse for me.

On the contrast, Japanese gets high rpc. I often get $1+ per click from namedrive.

I think namedrive is good.
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Old 22nd August 2009, 02:31 AM
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Thanks for your input Markits.....but
I'm thinking the Russian economy is doing as well as any, and if the Japanese clicks are at $1.00/click, than the Russian clicks should be worth more than
.01 cents, at least IMHO.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Steve,

Not all Japanese clicks are getting $1 each. In fact most of them are less than 10 cents.

The Russian payout is normal at namedrive. I checked my adsense account today and found two music related RU clicks resulted in a total 1 cent rev.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

From the Russian mini-sites we have, average click is a bit under 0.07 from adsense.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Hi mgrohan,

0.07 USD or RMB? I understand that adsense is showing local currency.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Sorry was 7 cents AUD. A little bit under 0.06USD per click.
Average of around 30 sites, wide range of niches, over last few months.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

I had more than once a below 0.01 average! That's to say clicks at $0!
50 Clicks and $0.30 reveneu. Get used to it.

Also have posted a lot before about the constant decrease on average CPC.
It think it is stable now.... at 0.01.

And what pisses me off a lot is sometimes seeing $10 on a domain and later on the day $2. They seem to be correcting fraud clicks on batch processes and later on.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

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I know its one of the few spots around...but this is ridiculous.
They need to learn to share, a little bit more.

Domain Revenue Views Clicks CTR Avg PPC

фильмыонлайн.com US$ 0.23 60 23 38.33 US$ 0.01

Will be moving all names out, over next few weeks.

It's not ND who sets the initial CPC, it's Google (even though Google prohibits ND from saying Google, ND must refer to THE G as their "advertising partner"). If Google is only paying 1.5c a click for Russian traffic, ND will of course take their percentage of that. The fact is that Yandex is the search engine where most Russian advertisers will bid. Google is number two, thus the bidding competition is small for large verticals and nearly non-existent for niches.

I have tons of vietnamese and turkish traffic, 1c a click.

The average CPC on my parked Finnish domains has nearly doubled recently, e.g. back to where it was 1.5 years ago. I put it down to end of summer (summer is so short that people don't stay inside on the net), as well as small signs of economic improvement.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

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Also have posted a lot before about the constant decrease on average CPC.
It think it is stable now.... at 0.01.

And what pisses me off a lot is sometimes seeing $10 on a domain and later on the day $2. They seem to be correcting fraud clicks on batch processes and later on.
I noticed the same thing. My understanding from the Namedrive FAQs is that the minimum ad rate that Google offers is 1 cent ($0.01) per click. Once Google and Namedrive take their share, I get somewhere around 0.3 cents ($.003) per click on my Russian domains.

The change from $10 to $2 is because Namedrive first guesses at the rate; ten cents ($0.10) per click is the standard guess for Europe (including Russia). Once they get the exact number from Google, which can take up to 24 hours, they use that. Going from the 10 cent estimate to the 0.3 cent actual payment is painful.

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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Also take into account the niche.

The keyword mentioned costs $0.05 to $0.08 to advertise in the top three spots in Google. G and ND will take their share of that every time someone clicks on the first three ads. If they click on subsequent ads, the payout will be lower.

You can get this info from the keyword tool.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

imo it's a function of how much e-commerce is done in those countries.

North America, Japan, much of Europe currently have high PPC because goods and services are bought over the internet regularly and package delivery is trusted.

Not much of that is done is Russia and China at the moment in comparison.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Well, I'm tired of low revenue also. But I did get an unexpected $2.29 click from a Hebrew domain (website.com) last Saturday.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Yes, but it is hard to see how a country whose manufacturing has taken the World by storm cannot organize some digitalized mail order, especially when it survival depends on developing its internal markets. What is more if you were starting out 20 years ago, you might have done things the traditional way. Realistically opening up China markets today is very much dependent on the growth of e-commerce.

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North America, Japan, much of Europe currently have high PPC because goods and services are bought over the internet regularly and package delivery is trusted.

Not much of that is done is Russia and China at the moment in comparison.
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Yes, but it is hard to see how a country whose manufacturing has taken the World by storm cannot organize some digitalized mail order, especially when it survival depends on developing its internal markets. What is more if you were starting out 20 years ago, you might have done things the traditional way. Realistically opening up China markets today is very much dependent on the growth of e-commerce.
Yeah, US e-commerce has probably seen its high mark for some time.

Agree that all the action is going to be in the BRIC and other countries. Once people get used to paying for stuff online, and receive it 99% of the time without it getting stolen or lost, growth will surge. It won't take long once it gets going.

In the US e-commerce sales grew 5x from 2000 to 2007.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Yes, and of the end of last year, the total US online market was still actually smaller than the UK! And that ain't even on a per capita basis.

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Yeah, US e-commerce has probably seen its high mark for some time.

Agree that all the action is going to be in the BRIC and other countries. Once people get used to paying for stuff online, and receive it 99% of the time without it getting stolen or lost, growth will surge. It won't take long once it gets going.

In the US e-commerce sales grew 5x from 2000 to 2007.
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Re: Namedrive SUCKS!

Well, great posts on the issue...

I have a quite sizable portfolio split into DS and ND. All I can say is that DS has been more generous to me than ND has been.

And also the possibility of limiting the revenues (no one can prove easily, at least as of now) is another front that needs to be addressed transparently by the parking providers. (discussed also at http://www.domainstate.com/showthrea...hreadid=101851)
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Well, great posts on the issue...I have a quite sizable portfolio split into DS and ND. All I can say is that DS has been more generous to me than ND has been.
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Yes, they (DomainSponsor) park IDNs.
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