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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:08 PM
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Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

>>EDMON CHUNG: I mean, if -- take, for example, the one
that I just proposed for dot Asia. Then we would grandfather -- well,
our proposal would be to grandfather anything that's in the zone.


>>STEVE DELBIANCO: Thank you. One follow-up to that. Earlier I
was stating sort of the perspective from the registrant and user group
community. And I would say that, if our plan B included IDN
equivalents of certain Gs on their own fast track, then one litmus test
is to ask, if they embrace the most restrictive and protective elements
of the IRT, you'd have to ask would it prevent a lot of incumbent
registrants, members of mine who happen to have IDN.net or IDN.com or
dot org, anything that would prevent them from getting the same thing
in the IDN equivalent ends up frustrating the whole purpose of the fast
track. Because, remember, their goal is to quickly -- I gave that
example of bluebridge.net. Their goal is get that whole thing in
Arabic and not have to go to 20 different countries.
So, whenever we embrace the most restrictive elements, let's just
check that to make sure it wouldn't prevent the actual goal here, which
is letting registrants quickly address the entire IDN community. So
the restrictiveness aspect should be tested rather than just assumed
that we can embrace the worst of all.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

>>EDMON CHUNG: But currently two options, maybe one, is yes,
we're now going to say that both would go in at the same time to the
root. We would change our position somewhat and make that assertion.
And both sides needs to agree to it.

>>EDMON CHUNG: The biggest issue for us is the timing between the cc
and the G IDN. And then there are common interests that affect that
particular timing.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

So, it looks like things are still up in the air.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:52 PM
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

I read it all. Lots of hints but absolutely nothing firm. But amazing how many times ".com as an IDN" can be inferred in one discussion without ever getting mentioned explicitly. Guess that is politics for ya .....

But yeah, with the ccTLD fast track truly under way, the GNSO is playing catch-up, and has no intention of letting ccTLD IDNs into the root before gTLD IDNs. Everything is going to happen pretty quickly now. Expect VeriSign to finally turn up for real very very soon.
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

>>ADRIAN KINDERIS: Just on that point. And your example you used
with your Arabic domain name before is an interesting one, because I
really think it's going to come down to those who have existing TLDs
and where they have them as to -- so when we talk about what the user
wants, do they want a G or do they want a CC, I think it's really what
they have now that dictates that.

>>STEVE DELBIANCO: May I respond to that? Adrian, great question.
You said there's sort of a subtle distinction between the user and
registrant with regard to it, because it's a function of what you have
now. I think that is only true of the registrant. If a registrant has
invested a lot of branding, like bluebridge.net, they're really focused
on what they have now. And they want it in IDN. But a user doesn't
sort of have anything. A user accesses the entire Internet. And she
turns her fingers like this to access content from a variety of places,
none of which she has but what of it she wants.
So I think the user and registrant perspectives should maintain a
distinction and ought to make its way into the term of reference for
this document.

>>ADRIAN KINDERIS: And for the scribes, acknowledged, thank you.
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Funny about bluebridge.net, it sounded like a "made up example of why we need iGTLDs ASAP" when Steve was talking about it repeatedly. And when you visit the site, it still seems like a "made up example" ....

And all that waffly talk about needing IDN email ....
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

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So, it looks like things are still up in the air.
I don't think it's right to see our current state "in the air"
Nothing is spelled out , recorded and notarized but if you add 1+1 you know exactly which way the water flows.

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Funny about bluebridge.net, it sounded like a "made up example of why we need iGTLDs ASAP" when Steve was talking about it repeatedly. And when you visit the site, it still seems like a "made up example" ....

And all that waffly talk about needing IDN email ....
I hope ICANN won't read this the same way you did
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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

From Beckstrom directly not the journalist....


http://www.npr.org/templates/transcr...ryId=120024190

The CEO of ICANN directly saying to on the record.

Mr. BECKSTROM: The Chinese Latinate extension is .cn, which is the country code for China. So, they'll be replacing that with some Chinese characters, or rather having a new domain name set you can sign up for. Now in the future there'll be other top-level domains opened up in other languages: .com, .net, .org. But if you're a business in China then, then you might decide to go and register your Chinese name, dot the two Chinese characters, when that becomes available sometime next year.

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ok ....still new on the job...

1-so using the word 'replacing' ....not correct... since you get 6 names / with 4 variants if needed etc...

2- "becomes available next year"......not correct for years etc...

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the GTLD's are going to demand 2010 action ...
either in Kenya...or in Belgium

whatever....

Verisign owns it. Period.

Hit me with the $1 whois forklift fee........whatever....

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This is the brick through the ASCII domainer window...

They never believed or contemplated 'grandfathering' when in essence it was never grandfathering.....
just a second item via whois and a look up table in punycode....

Punycode magic always blinded them....because it has been ASCII all along...and they ignored the logic and obviousness of it.

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Re: Here's the plan - IDN gTLD's Fast Track

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I don't think it's right to see our current state "in the air"
Nothing is spelled out , recorded and notarized but if you add 1+1 you know exactly which way the water flows.



I hope ICANN won't read this the same way you did
ICANN already knows the need for iGTLDs ...... it doesn't need "bogus" examples of American firms "re-branding" or whatever ..... but I understand, this example was "created" to explain why iGTLDs have to happen ASAP for the sake of registrants ..... and absolutely nothing to do with VeriSign :p
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Listen to the interview here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=120024190
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