IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names  
Home | idntools | Advertise on idnforums | Premium Membership

Go Back   IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names > IDN Discussions > General Discussion

General Discussion Feel free to talk about anything and everything in this board.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2009, 12:27 AM
sbe18's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,197
iTrader: (10)
Rep Power: 640
sbe18 is on a distinguished roadsbe18 is on a distinguished roadsbe18 is on a distinguished roadsbe18 is on a distinguished roadsbe18 is on a distinguished roadsbe18 is on a distinguished road
ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to IDN

ICANN' s Board transcript is posted.


http://sel.icann.org/meetings/seoul2...30oct09-en.txt


And for all the doubters about existing gTLD's enroute to IDN.IDN status...
...



CEO Rod Beckstrom's Remarks:

ROD BECKSTROM: Thank you, Peter. I'd just like to express my
appreciation to all those across the open Internet ecosystem who have
worked for many, many years to make this possible. And especially
not only to the members of the ICANN community, but to the members of
the Internet Engineering Task Force, the IETF, some of whom have
worked for over a decade on this issue.

And this represents today one small step for ICANN, and the IETF,
but it represents a very important and significant step for half the
world of Internet users. Those who use non-Latin scripts and their
own language.

This helps us live up to our shared goals of: One world, one
Internet, everyone connected.

Now, in people's own script.

And this first step allows them to use their own domain names in
their own languages, but only for the country code domains, so
instead of dot Korea, they can have dot -- the set of Hangul symbols
or, rather, symbols that represent Korea for them -- and this is an
important step. And yet there's many people around the world that
would like to have the equivalents of the Latin TLDs such as dot com,
dot net, dot org, and others in their own native scripts as well.

This is an important next step that we need to continue working on.
We, as a community, have not yet reached consensus on the final
resolution of those other issues, but we have a moral responsibility
in what we do for the public interest to push that forward.



Otherwise, we are prejudicing the global domain name system against
half of the world whose native languages are in those other scripts.
So I hope that to fulfill our obligation to act in the public
interest, which we recently reaffirmed by signing the Affirmation of
Commitments, that we will move forward swiftly and professionally and
with due consideration to bring those issues to a closure, so that
people in Thailand, in Korea, in India, and all over the world can
truly use the Internet in their own script for their domain name
needs. Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2009, 12:32 AM
Wot's Avatar
Wot Wot is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,500
iTrader: (30)
Rep Power: 1367
Wot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enoughWot will become famous soon enough
Re: ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbe18 View Post
ICANN' s Board transcript is posted.


http://sel.icann.org/meetings/seoul2...30oct09-en.txt


And for all the doubters about existing gTLD's enroute to IDN.IDN status...
...



CEO Rod Beckstrom's Remarks:

ROD BECKSTROM: Thank you, Peter. I'd just like to express my
appreciation to all those across the open Internet ecosystem who have
worked for many, many years to make this possible. And especially
not only to the members of the ICANN community, but to the members of
the Internet Engineering Task Force, the IETF, some of whom have
worked for over a decade on this issue.

And this represents today one small step for ICANN, and the IETF,
but it represents a very important and significant step for half the
world of Internet users. Those who use non-Latin scripts and their
own language.

This helps us live up to our shared goals of: One world, one
Internet, everyone connected.

Now, in people's own script.

And this first step allows them to use their own domain names in
their own languages, but only for the country code domains, so
instead of dot Korea, they can have dot -- the set of Hangul symbols
or, rather, symbols that represent Korea for them -- and this is an
important step. And yet there's many people around the world that
would like to have the equivalents of the Latin TLDs such as dot com,
dot net, dot org, and others in their own native scripts as well.

This is an important next step that we need to continue working on.
We, as a community, have not yet reached consensus on the final
resolution of those other issues, but we have a moral responsibility
in what we do for the public interest to push that forward.



Otherwise, we are prejudicing the global domain name system against
half of the world whose native languages are in those other scripts.
So I hope that to fulfill our obligation to act in the public
interest, which we recently reaffirmed by signing the Affirmation of
Commitments, that we will move forward swiftly and professionally and
with due consideration to bring those issues to a closure, so that
people in Thailand, in Korea, in India, and all over the world can
truly use the Internet in their own script for their domain name
needs. Thank you.
__________________
红旗.com,4X.中国,MonikerBlog.com,8-8.中国, 北京.机构
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2009, 03:07 PM
Explorer's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 761
iTrader: (13)
Rep Power: 416
Explorer is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbe18 View Post
ICANN' s Board transcript is posted.


http://sel.icann.org/meetings/seoul2...30oct09-en.txt


And for all the doubters about existing gTLD's enroute to IDN.IDN status...
...



CEO Rod Beckstrom's Remarks:

ROD BECKSTROM: Thank you, Peter. I'd just like to express my
appreciation to all those across the open Internet ecosystem who have
worked for many, many years to make this possible. And especially
not only to the members of the ICANN community, but to the members of
the Internet Engineering Task Force, the IETF, some of whom have
worked for over a decade on this issue.

And this represents today one small step for ICANN, and the IETF,
but it represents a very important and significant step for half the
world of Internet users. Those who use non-Latin scripts and their
own language.

This helps us live up to our shared goals of: One world, one
Internet, everyone connected.

Now, in people's own script.

And this first step allows them to use their own domain names in
their own languages, but only for the country code domains, so
instead of dot Korea, they can have dot -- the set of Hangul symbols
or, rather, symbols that represent Korea for them -- and this is an
important step. And yet there's many people around the world that
would like to have the equivalents of the Latin TLDs such as dot com,
dot net, dot org, and others in their own native scripts as well.

This is an important next step that we need to continue working on.
We, as a community, have not yet reached consensus on the final
resolution of those other issues, but we have a moral responsibility
in what we do for the public interest to push that forward.



Otherwise, we are prejudicing the global domain name system against
half of the world whose native languages are in those other scripts.
So I hope that to fulfill our obligation to act in the public
interest, which we recently reaffirmed by signing the Affirmation of
Commitments, that we will move forward swiftly and professionally and
with due consideration to bring those issues to a closure, so that
people in Thailand, in Korea, in India, and all over the world can
truly use the Internet in their own script for their domain name
needs. Thank you.
Great find!
__________________
Asking a local domainer who missed the boat on IDNs in his language if IDNs are valuable is like asking your wife whether your mistress is pretty.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 7th November 2009, 04:18 PM
Rubber Duck's Avatar
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Czech Republic (For those of you from USA = Chechnya)
Posts: 15,586
iTrader: (59)
Rep Power: 2965
Rubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enoughRubber Duck will become famous soon enough
Re: ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to

He is not particularly intuitive, but he is clever enough to know when he has run out of options. Those that pay the Piper are getting impatient.
__________________
All offers to sell are void.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 8th November 2009, 12:06 AM
sarcle's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 3,717
iTrader: (22)
Rep Power: 1553
sarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enough
Re: ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to

Quote:
that we will move forward swiftly
First, this is a nice find and very encouraging.

I just have my doubts over what Icann thinks or understands as to what "swiftly" means. How many years have we been waiting for a .IDN? We still don't see it live. I know we are going into a critical and an important period in the Internet's history. This is after all why we have invested.

Now we are finally on track to get the first .IDNs rolling out. But what does "swiftly" mean to an organization that has stalled out on this project; that in all reality should have only taken a couple years.

We're almost there guys.

I'm still wondering how much bureaucracy, red tape, and drama we going to see coming out of the gTLD .IDN process?
__________________
I can hear the death rattle of fiat from here...
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 8th November 2009, 11:52 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,734
iTrader: (59)
Rep Power: 1751
bwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enoughbwhhisc will become famous soon enough
Re: ICANN Board transcript posted again Beckstrom confirms existing gtld's route to

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarcle View Post
First, this is a nice find and very encouraging.

I just have my doubts over what Icann thinks or understands as to what "swiftly" means. How many years have we been waiting for a .IDN? We still don't see it live. I know we are going into a critical and an important period in the Internet's history. This is after all why we have invested.

Now we are finally on track to get the first .IDNs rolling out. But what does "swiftly" mean to an organization that has stalled out on this project; that in all reality should have only taken a couple years.

I'm still wondering how much bureaucracy, red tape, and drama we going to see coming out of the gTLD .IDN process?
The deal was made long ago and its all about timing coordinated timing of idn.com and idn.cctld's aliasing "so as not to disadvantage one another". ICANN has also answered a lot of questions by saying the decisions will be made by each registry...and no doubt Verisign has a johnny on every spot there.

The GNSO Council, in response to ccNSO-GAC report on IDN issues (http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/ccnso-g...se-20feb08.pdf), as well as in its comments on the IDNC WG Final Report (http://gnso.icann.org/issues/idn-tld...rt-14aug08.pdf) expressed that “the introduction of IDN gTLDs or IDN ccTLDs should not be delayed because of lack of readiness of one category, but if they are not introduced at the same time, steps should be taken so that neither category is advantaged or disadvantaged, and procedures should be developed to avoid possible conflicts.”

Further, the GNSO Council made a resolution in January 2009 to assert that “the GNSO Council strongly believes that neither the New gTLD or ccTLD fast track process should result in IDN TLDs in the root before the other unless both the GNSO and ccNSO so agree.”

Last edited by bwhhisc; 8th November 2009 at 01:37 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 05:30 AM.

Site Sponsors
Your ad here
buy idns
domain name lawyer
buy t-shirt
מחיר הזהב

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright idnforums.com 2005

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54