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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

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I'd think that Kanji .coms with the same meaning in Japanese and Chinese would also have added value, getting .JapaneseCOM and .ChineseCOM - right? And, you could run two sites, one for each country?
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Looking for that bottle of wine...
Just a bummer all this didn't fall into place BEFORE the global economic meltdown.

I think the recovery will be local and regional based first since the consumer-based "we'll buy any crap you export to us" US recovery ain't gonna happen.

So we're still in a better position than most.
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Christmas has definitely arrived early this year.
Yes it did. For all of us!

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So we're still in a better position than most.
Especially for those who diversified their portfolios Some economies are much stronger than others while many are in the shitter.
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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

with regard to :

idn.com

getting a dot com IDN extension for chinese and Japanese Kanji similar names...


Emphatically ....YES.. YES......

2 fees to boot.......(grin) ....looming




and on the registrant choosing to turn it on.....

there is the incremental process event ...price item.../ IDN.com tax..... and the $ to support cctld short falls based on
the voluntary language in Seoul....


great find...Michael......

zone mirroring....for multiple dot com's ........cool.....

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Woo Hoo! thanks 555!

Finally!

Am going to celebrate.
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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

Just the news we needed! All the laggards waiting for "real" IDNs are going to be awfully upset.
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Am going to celebrate.
Cheers to that. My bottle is almost finished.
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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

Do you still believe in coincidences?

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So know that we know our names are golden all we need is the timeline. Nice announcement before the Dec. 9th meeting. I'm sure we'll get an outline on when gTLD in IDN go live then.

Looking for that bottle of wine...

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China and India never really stopped growing, they just slowed a little.

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Just a bummer all this didn't fall into place BEFORE the global economic meltdown.

I think the recovery will be local and regional based first since the consumer-based "we'll buy any crap you export to us" US recovery ain't gonna happen.

So we're still in a better position than most.
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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

Here Chuck is wearing his Verisign Hat, but he was also recently appointed to the most influential position within ICANN, that of chair of the GNSO.

I still see this as negotiating position. I think ICANN will want complete mirrored zones, but Verisign obvious want to make money over and above what all the extra demand will bring. My guess is that they will be angling to hike the rates for the 90M existing dot Com registrants.

Either way though we are laughing. They are saying we are the only one that can register which means we don't immediately need to pay more just when it suits us. Names can be upgraded as traffic revenues justify the expenditure.

This also correlates well with Tina Dam's latest comments at IDNblog. So we know it is not just Chuck putting his foot in his gob.

Home and Dry!



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Mike,

Let me use our own plans for IDN versions of .com and .net as an
example. Our current plans that we have communicated to our customers
and others is as follows:
Second level registrants for any .com or .net domain names will have the
right to activate their second-level name for any IDN versions of the
corresponding .com or .net name and no one else will be allowed to do
that.
All second level registrations for IDN versions of .com or .net will be
associated with their corresponding ASCII .com or .net as applicable.
In essence, the result will be that all active second level domain names
for .com or .net (ASCII or IDN) will have the same registrant. For any
that are not activated, they will be unavailable to others.
I don't think there should be any user confusion in the DNS in this
approach. Do you?

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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

And looking a little deeper!

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My point is this: if two strings are confusingly similar but
> are offered in a way that minimizes the risks of user
> confusion, they should be allowed. For example: if the
> chinese version of .asia is proposed, it is confusingly
> similar to the ASCII version of .asia; but if it is proposed
> by dotAsia, the same registry operator as for the ASCII
> version, and is offered in a way to minimize any confusion,
> there should be no problem with that. In a case like that,
> there should be no need for extended evaluation.
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Christmas has definitely arrived early this year.
'Tis the season to be jolly,
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la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Home and Dry!
Yes we are. I'm still waiting for the "put a f-ing sock in it you f-ing wankers" post from you over at that "other place."

I can hardly wait for Dec. 9th to hear the full game plan.
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Re: Chuck gomes/Verisign/GNSO/IDNG

since he had to be politically sensitive...he went with dot Asia....

In a case like that,
> there should be no need for extended evaluation.

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this is the bulldozer line....
It is the bulldozer line for incumbent GTLD's to demand the version/variant string regime that the incumbent cctld's are getting in April 2010.
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it throws away the $185 K / string as new GTLD, and hits the board with
millions with turn on fees, and across the board price hikes to cover the
voluntary regime for IDN cctld poverty claims etc......

how can they say no to a $10+ million windfall over 12 months.

smooth.....

and it hits the board with the simultaneity needed for April 2010..

very smooth....
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I can hardly wait for Dec. 9th to hear the full game plan.
Consent Agenda

1.Consent Agenda Resolution:
a.Approval of Lease for Washington D.C. Office Space
b.Payment of Jones Day Invoices
c.Amendment for Partial Bulk Transfer in dot-COM and dot-NET
d.Thank You to Rajasekhar Ramaraj for service on SSACMain Board Meeting

Main Board Meeting


2.President’s Report
3.Affirmation of Commitment Reviews
4.Plan for Expressions of Interest
5.Updated Project Plan on New gTLDs
a.Root Scaling Study Update
b.Registry/Registrar Separation
6.New GNSO Constituency Applications
7.Update on IDN FastTrack
8.Update on Strategic Plan
9.Reforecast of FY11 Budget
10.Redelegation of .co
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You know what. This is really bad news for a lot of "local" domainers.

The guys on Russian domain forums will be thrilled. Their ascii.ru investments are just about to go down the tubes due to .РФ. And now, transliterated-ascii.com .net as well.
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You know what. This is really bad news for a lot of "local" domainers. The guys on Russian domain forums will be thrilled. Their ascii.ru investments are just about to go down the tubes due to .РФ. And now, transliterated-ascii.com .net as well.
Can you suggest to them a version of Russian pinyin? :p
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Can you suggest to them a version of Russian pinyin? :p
The work towards constructing the Beifangxua Latinxua Sin Wenz (北方話拉丁化新文字) system began in Moscow as early as 1928 when the Soviet Scientific Research Institute on China sought to create a means through which the large Chinese population living in the far eastern region of the U.S.S.R. could be made literate,[1] facilitating their further education.
This was significantly different from all other romanization schemes in that, from the very outset, it was intended that the Latinxua Sin Wenz system, once established, would supersede the Chinese characters.[2]

They used the Latin alphabet — as they planned to switch all the languages of the USSR, including Russian, to Latin as the alphabet of international communism.



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丁化新文字(又称新文字,为与其他方言拉丁化新文字区隔,又名北方拉丁化新文字,简称北拉)是用拉丁字母拼写汉语的重要方案之一。
拉丁化新文字曾促进中国文字改革运动的发展,它产生于1931年在海参崴举行的中国新文字第一次代表大会。1932年公布推行上海话拉丁化新文字,后改称江南话拉丁化新文字。1933年后,广泛于全国各地推广,1955年停止使用。
方案特点为:不标记声调,不写出舌间元音,分别尖音,团音。拼音如:
Latinxua Sin Wenz. 拉丁化新文字

Wenz bisy zai iding tiaojian xia giaji gaige. 文字必须在一定条件下加以改革。

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Yes we are. I'm still waiting for the "put a f-ing sock in it you f-ing wankers" post from you over at that "other place."

I can hardly wait for Dec. 9th to hear the full game plan.
Well, it could be difficult as I got banned from Namepros for being "inconsequential individual with an over inflated opinioin of himself" or words to that effect.
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Well, it could be difficult as I got banned from Namepros for being "inconsequential individual with an over inflated opinioin of himself" or words to that effect.
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