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Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

MOSCOW, December 8 (Itar-Tass) - Priority registration of Cyrillic-based domain names in the top-level domain .rf is expected to resume in Russia in the coming days, Andrei Kolesnikov, director of registrar Regional Network Information Center (RU-CENTER), said late Monday, ITAR-TASS reported.
Registrars do not plan to delete domain names that have already been registered, Kolesnikov said, adding that all trademark holders that have registered domain names for their trademarks had the right to do so. Registrars also abandoned the idea to register domain names only for holders of trademarks registered before March 25, 2009, Kolesnikov said, adding that registrars plan to reserve domain names for any trademarks.
Priority registration, which started on November 25 with the aim to reserve domain names for governmental bodies and trademark holders, was suspended on November 27 as registrars suspected that some trademark holders had registered domain names consisting of common words with the intention to then sell the domain names at higher prices.
Priority registration is expected to end in March 2010. An open registration of domain names in the top-level domain .rf is expected to start in June 2010.
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

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MOSCOW, December 8 (Itar-Tass) - Priority registration of Cyrillic-based domain names in the top-level domain .rf is expected to resume in Russia in the coming days, Andrei Kolesnikov, director of registrar Regional Network Information Center (RU-CENTER), said late Monday, ITAR-TASS reported.
Registrars do not plan to delete domain names that have already been registered, Kolesnikov said, adding that all trademark holders that have registered domain names for their trademarks had the right to do so. Registrars also abandoned the idea to register domain names only for holders of trademarks registered before March 25, 2009, Kolesnikov said, adding that registrars plan to reserve domain names for any trademarks.
Priority registration, which started on November 25 with the aim to reserve domain names for governmental bodies and trademark holders, was suspended on November 27 as registrars suspected that some trademark holders had registered domain names consisting of common words with the intention to then sell the domain names at higher prices.
Priority registration is expected to end in March 2010. An open registration of domain names in the top-level domain .rf is expected to start in June 2010.
That's just plain wrong.
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

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Registrars do not plan to delete domain names that have already been registered
This is going to get interesting....popcorn?
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

Priority registration continues.
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This is going to get interesting....popcorn?
Hang on tight; you may find that you're part of the performance.

Program of the Play:

Act 1: Just completed. Nothing more to be seen.

Act 2: Russia sets up its own UDRP board, and uses it to highjack high-value cyrillic .com domains. This act stars the system of government-approved "trademarks" that made its debut in Act 1.

Act 3 (optional): Original registrant files a lawsuit within the 15 day deadline, so this act takes place in a courtroom in the city where the registrar is located. (Plane tickets not included in the price of the performance).

Act 4 (after the audience has gone home and the domains have been redistributed): ICANN notices something is amiss.

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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

Ouch.
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

A Russian UDRP board is a non starter for the .rf/.po holders to go after
russian IDN.com / idn.KOM names.

isp blacklisting....maybe


dot com/ Verisign is US based.

US law.

first plane ticket is westbound. Moscow to US

generic ....UDRP FAIL.
bad faith....UDRP FAIL
dot com reg date pre-dates Russian dot PO trademark date and reg dat ..UDRP FAIL


com/net/org in fact all GTLD's fall within ICANN which is California/US based law.

cctld's they can duke it out locally.


dot CN's had political / censureship risk.

now dot rf/po is proving to have graft/ self dealing risk land grabbing.


The looming Arabic language self dealing will make the license plate auctions look tame.

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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

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dot com/ Verisign is US based.
Yes, it doesn't mean anything.


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US law.
Jurisdiction for civil lawsuits/appeals, post WIPO, is according to the country where the REGISTRAR, not REGISTRY, operates.

For example, if you reg your dot coms through Joker.com, you will fall under GERMAN jurisdiction.

If you reg your dot coms through Dynadot, then you will fall under US jurisdiction.

Etc.

Don't assume that all dot coms are registered via US based REGISTRARs.
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

The problem is, if they set up a Russian WIPO-approved UDRP provider, that provider could easily bend the rules to allow local TM's to trump previously registered .com's. Same as NAF is the favourite UDRP provider for US TM owners.

So you'd end up spending big money defending each of your names in US law courts to get the UDRP decision overturned.

The alternative would be as soon as the UDRP notice landed on your door, file for injunction/relief (I think that's what you do) in the district court the Registrar resides in, to negate the power of the TM and the UDRP proceeding - current running legal processes trump the kangaroo court UDRP process.

But we need a real TM lawyer to weigh in rather than us pseudo ones.
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Avtal, Please don't post legal speculation like this in the public section. It helps no one.
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Avtal, Please don't post legal speculation like this in the public section. It helps no one.
bftp, you're right. Is this something the moderators can fix?

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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

as with the Kentucky gambling names case...

domain name law is evolving, and International Domain name law is about to
be shot out of cannon.

My point was my IDN dot com's are with US based registrars.
They are in different states.

MJ is correct that international based dot com registrars would make
reverse dot com UDRP hijacking possible.
but US law recourse is available with Verisign

Verisign/ICANN is in California. That would permit injunctive relief for a foreign entity via ICANN's presence in California. But you would have to hire a California bar admitted attorney presumably.

If a Russian IDN.po wants to reverse hijack a name from me, he is going to have to show up in court somewhere in the states.
Dynadot is California based.

a) he will lose on bad faith
b) I am going to Tiger Woods' wife style 9 iron his face.


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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

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MJ is correct that international based dot com registrars would make
reverse dot com UDRP hijacking possible.
but US law recourse is available with Verisign

I don't know. My feeling is that US based registrars generally roll over easier regarding complaints than say a German based registrar would. Hell, Dynadot rolled over for a complaint by the Swiss gov on shutting down a domain that published leaks about financial wrongdoing of swiss bankers. And there is supposed to be freedom of speech in the US. Perhaps Moniker wouldn't have rolled over, but who knows?

There is already existing IDN case law in Germany - district court rulings that owners of ascii generics are not entitled to the same IDNs. Example: owning ferienhaeuser.de/com, or even the misspelling ferienhauser.de/com, would not entitle one to reverse hijack the IDN ferienhäuser.de/com, and a UDRP ruling would be overturned in the German courts. I just have a gut feeling that the situation could be a lot less favorable for the defendant in the US. I think the Castello brothers have the same gut feeling.
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Re: Russia To Resume Priority Cyrillic Domain Registration Soon

If the Costellos went to the UK, to attempt to
have a UDRP for whisky.co.uk to move over to them,
because of their possession of whisky.com ...?

Extracting one of those Scottish Highland Games' tree poles from their
body cavity would be an interesting youtube video...


As RD has written on their 'bullion' example....
English language ethno-centrism is being a figment.

Will bad UDRP decisions get made......almost certainly.
Will I personally allow any generic to be slid over ?
Absolutely not, no how.

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