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Old 25th January 2010, 04:19 PM
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Hi IDNers,

I have been reading here (and regging idns) for a while before finally subscribing to this forum. Simply the best source for idn-related discussions.

I am from Germany, so feel free to ask for German translations. As you probably know our idn-market has allready taken off.

And don't forget not to mention the war.

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Hi BBB, welcome!

I only have one German domain, bestände.com, it is good?
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Hi BBB, welcome!

I only have one German domain, bestände.com, it is good?
I guess, you were hoping for Stocks.com in German. Unfortunately it's not. I would translate it to "supply". But any German would ask "supply of what?" as it is a very general term which doesn't make much sense for itself. For the German Market it is very helpful to get keywords representing Products which can be sold on the internet. And the keyword ist far more important than the extension as net, org, info and eu are quite popular as well.
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Thanks.

Yes I thought it was stocks since many dictionary say so. But then other dictionaries show it as "storages". Very confused.

Thanks for the excellent explanation. It seems I should drop it.
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Welcome to IDNF BubbleBee Man

Are your registered IDNs German, or a variety of various languages ??

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Welcome, bbm. So what are your thoughts on fahrvergnügen.com? It's my only German at the moment. Thanks. Enjoy the forum!
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Welcome to IDNF BubbleBee Man

Are your registered IDNs German, or a variety of various languages ??

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I've got IDNs in about 20 languages but not in German. :D

Not that I don't believe in German IDNs, I was just too late. Finding good Keywords in German even with IDN is about as hard as in English. :o
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And don't forget not to mention the war
and the football

Welcome, I guess you have a few German-idn.de

What would be in your opinion, the single biggest reason why Germany has adopted IDN.de so well?
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Welcome Bumble bee,

Glad you joined, German market yes - it's taken off in a big way.

Wondering about a few of my German.
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damen-bekleidung.com
modekleidung.com
kleidungkaufen.com
IDN
sport-zubehör.com
schönheits.com
Überprüft.com
verkäufen.com
köln-mülheim.com
möbel-discount.com
schwimmbad-zubehör.com


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Welcome, bbm. So what are your thoughts on fahrvergnügen.com? It's my only German at the moment. Thanks. Enjoy the forum!
The term is probably not searched very often, but German car producers like to advertise their cars with it. So you should contact them.

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What would be in your opinion, the single biggest reason why Germany has adopted IDN.de so well?
It's because the acsii-versions of the "Umlaut" are so unpopular. No one really types in "moebel" instead of "möbel".

http://www.google.de/trends?q=m%C3%B6bel%2C+moebel
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Re: ¡Ay, ay, ay

Welcome BBM

I've 3 German at moment, but with WS extention -

Österreich.ws
München.ws
Köln.ws

Do you think are worth to keep?

Thanks!
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It's because the acsii-versions of the "Umlaut" are so unpopular. No one really types in "moebel" instead of "möbel".

http://www.google.de/trends?q=m%C3%B6bel%2C+moebel
and do you know how the end user ended up getting it? was it through advertising & awareness, or was it just human nature
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Welcome Bumble bee,

Glad you joined, German market yes - it's taken off in a big way.

Wondering about a few of my German.
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damen-bekleidung.com
modekleidung.com
kleidungkaufen.com
IDN
sport-zubehör.com
schönheits.com
Überprüft.com
verkäufen.com
köln-mülheim.com
möbel-discount.com
schwimmbad-zubehör.com


Thanks,

Phio
From 0 (poor) to 10 (great)

damen-bekleidung.com 7 - women's clothes

modekleidung.com - 2 - kind of double term because "mode" and "kleidung" are used as synonyms

kleidungkaufen.com - 8 - buying clothes

sport-zubehör.com 7 - useful for a sports related online shop

schönheits.com - 0 - not a stand alone term

Überprüft.com - 1 - hard to monetize as it is a special form of a verb

verkäufen.com - 0 - word doesn't exist with umlaut

köln-mülheim.com - 4 - part of Cologne but only 40.000 inhabitants

möbel-discount.com - 9 - nice one. Furniture is great for German domains as it is a highly competitive market. This could well be worth X,XXX $.

schwimmbad-zubehör.com - 2 - Can't think of any use for it.

Even though a few of them are worthless the others will certainly compensate for that.

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Welcome BBM

I've 3 German at moment, but with WS extention -

Österreich.ws
München.ws
Köln.ws

Do you think are worth to keep?

Thanks!
The terms are great as geo domains, but I'm unsure about the extension. Popular extensions in Germany are de, com, net, org, info and eu.

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and do you know how the end user ended up getting it? was it through advertising & awareness, or was it just human nature
I would say, the end end user never understood that it wasn't possible before. Even when it didn't lead anywhere "möbel.de" probably had more type-ins than "moebel.de".

So I guess it was human nature. 99% of German internet users have never even heard of IDNs and just use them naturally. And I can't remember any major advertising-campaign targeting end users.
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Hi BBM,

I have the following two German IDN's

königin.com
lüttich.com


Whats your appraisal for these?

Thanks!
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hello bbm welcome to the forum

what about this idns

läden.net
prüfungen.net
büroware.com
küpper.com
güter.com
gebäuden.com
ärzten.com
präsentieren.com

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Hi BBM,

I have the following two German IDN's

königin.com
lüttich.com

Whats your appraisal for these?

Thanks!
Lüttich is the German name for Liège in Belgium. Decent geo.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCttich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li%C3%A8ge

Königin will be hard to sell as there is no queen in Germany. Without branding or developing hardly worth reg-fee.
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From 0 (poor) to 10 (great)

damen-bekleidung.com 7 - women's clothes

kleidungkaufen.com - 8 - buying clothes

sport-zubehör.com 7 - useful for a sports related online shop

köln-mülheim.com - 4 - part of Cologne but only 40.000 inhabitants

möbel-discount.com - 9 - nice one. Furniture is great for German domains as it is a highly competitive market. This could well be worth X,XXX $.
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hello bbm welcome to the forum

what about this idns

läden.net
prüfungen.net
büroware.com
küpper.com
güter.com
gebäuden.com
ärzten.com
präsentieren.com

many thanks
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läden.net - shops. Perhaps too general for a domain because people tend to search for products and not shops. Could work well as shopping directory with subdomains like bücher.läden.net (book.shops.net).

prüfungen.net - exams. good for a student site.

büroware.com - Not used very often.

küpper.com - Second name. Hard to evaluate.

güter.com - goods. Same as "läden".

gebäuden.com - Word can't stand alone.

ärzten.com - Word can't stand alone.

präsentieren.com - to present. Could be a doc-sharing site. But in general nouns are more common for German domains.
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Looks like you're one busy little bee here. I appreciate your taking time to appraise my domain. Danke...
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thanks for the translations bbm

goods.com shops.net exams.com lastname.com is the best i think , they are also registered in all extenstion

im not sure to keep the others below

doctors.com buildings.com officesoftware.com and present.com

many thanks again for your time

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