Governments Deliver Another Blow to New Top Level Domain Timeline

[sarcle]

The Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) is asking ICANN to delay a decision on the so-called “Expressions of Interest” process for new top level domain names.

More: http://domainnamewire.com/2010/01/28...main-timeline/

My god, we are never going to get there.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by sarcle

More: http://domainnamewire.com/2010/01/28...main-timeline/

My god, we are never going to get there.

No, it's going to take a really long time.

Just have a drink and relax while waiting ;-)

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Just have a drink and relax while waiting ;-)

I think my liver is about to explode.

Personally on Russian domains I think it's only a matter of a month or two until .po goes live when .com will really start to take off there. That is of course hoping that goes to schedule too. But I'm guessing it won't either.

[sarcle]

So who used my username in the comments at the blog?

“the process will aid ICANN insiders’
Sure it will the way it is now. Especially, Verisign.

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[sarcle]

Holy Cow, you're fast Aaron!

http://idnblog.com/2010/01/28/gtld-delays-imminent/

[sprewellpj]

Originally Posted by sarcle

Holy Cow, you're fast Aaron!

http://idnblog.com/2010/01/28/gtld-delays-imminent/

Thanks Adam.

[jose]

Why not separate idn gtlds from vanity gtlds?

[phio]

This only strengthens the case of splitting off the 'new IDNgtlds' from the launch of 'new gtld process'

Internet content is now made up of more than 50 percent non-latin characters, this means there is a much greater need for adding IDNgtld extensions.

Verisign needs to step up to the plate, and talk to GAC and ICANN and the US Department of Commerce on this one.

The benefits for future commerce between the east and the west (more specifically asia with EU and US), far outweigh these delays.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by sarcle

I think my liver is about to explode.

Personally on Russian domains I think it's only a matter of a month or two until .po goes live when .com will really start to take off there. That is of course hoping that goes to schedule too. But I'm guessing it won't either.

Yep, those that have chosen the right languages are going to be out of the gate fastest. Surprisingly it looks as though Japanese and Chinese are being overhauled by Russian and Arabic. Not that the aftermarket reflects that in any shape or form.

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Yep, those that have chosen the right languages are going to be out of the gate fastest. Surprisingly it looks as though Japanese and Chinese are being overhauled by Russian and Arabic. Not that the aftermarket reflects that in any shape or form.

I've had some WTF? moments. But Russia is set up and ready to sell on day one. And traffic right now to our names reflects the people's readiness for these names. Now someone just needs to light the fuse.

You're right though. WTF happened to China and Japan? I expected those two languages to be in the first batch of names released.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by sarcle

WTF happened to China

Everyone's busy.

http://english.eastday.com/e/100129/u1a4987219.html

Hainan property prices skyrocket
2010-01-29 09:39

The plan to turn China's tropical southern island of Hainan into an international tourist resort by 2020 has already started nudging property prices skywards, according to media reports.

More than 200 potential property buyers have been pouring into the island every day since the end of last year, when the government unveiled its tourism plan, local media reported.

Prices are rising by about 1,000 yuan ($164) per sq m every day for some properties. Those properties that were priced at 15,000 yuan per sq m at the start of the year now cost 20,000 yuan, reports said.

Prices of some of the properties have already hit 70,000 yuan per sq m, with figures constantly fluctuating as real estate hunters flock to the island.

Ye Ning, a professional real estate speculator in Sanya, a popular coastal city in Hainan, said the sudden rise in prices is troubling.

"The average price of new apartments in Sanya's Fenghuangdao International Port were already as high as 60,000 yuan to 70,000 yuan per sq m as of Jan 11.

Now, the figure has risen to 100,000 yuan," said Ye, who started his business just two years ago.

"Compared with Haikou (the capital) and Sanya, where prices are already too high for most people, real estate in Qionghai, Wenchang and Boao are still better for the attractive locales and relatively low prices,"he said.

Potential buyers from Zhejiang province and the northeast, such as Heilongjiang, Jilin, and Liaoning provinces, are said to be the main force behind the skyrocketing prices.

"Many developers and homeowners have suspended sales, expecting prices to go through the roof to rake in more profits," said Liu Haiyi, assistant general manager of Hainan Jintai Real Estate Development Co Ltd.

The provincial government attempted to cool down the overheated real estate sector by suspending the leasing of land and approval of projects on Jan 15.

However, a property agent surnamed Wu said the plan might have backfired. "It may have led to a second wave of price hikes," he said.

As of now, more than 30 percent of Sanya's properties are vacant, which analysts say is "quite dangerous for the market".

"There is a bubble forming, and it is bound to burst if effective measures are not applied soon," said He Qi, vice secretary general of the China Real Estate Association.

Wei Liucheng, secretary of the Hainan Provincial Committee of the Communist Party of China, said the recent tourism plan had led to some "unexpected responses".

"The society sometimes wrongly interprets the country's policies," Wei said.

"The province is short of talented people, not money. The final goal for development is to protect the interests of the masses and attract more talented people to settle down in Hainan."

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by touchring

Everyone's busy.

http://english.eastday.com/e/100129/u1a4987219.html

I realize China has many things going on. Which country doesn't? But I don't see how that would hold up or relate to CNNIC not getting their ext. approved. They made it clear they were going all out on this and were one of the first to apply. So where's it at?

[Drewbert]

Has anyone regged property-bubble.cn?

[touchring]

Originally Posted by sarcle

I realize China has many things going on. Which country doesn't? But I don't see how that would hold up or relate to CNNIC not getting their ext. approved. They made it clear they were going all out on this and were one of the first to apply. So where's it at?

lol The CNNIC officials are too busy flipping to prod along the ICANN officials.

[Drewbert]

I wouldn't be too worried.

Most likely, they sent the strings out to the various language experts for discussion/approval, and those four replied in time to make the first batch, and the chinese/japanese ones may have just missed out by a day.

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by touchring

lol The CNNIC officials are too busy flipping to prod along the ICANN officials.

Lol. There you go. Now I got ya.

[abe]

Interesting post:

http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2010...veto-at-icann/

And at the ICANN Studienkreis last week in Barcelona, I asked a panel that included Fiona Alexander from the U.S. NTIA how the Government Advisory Committee (GAC) saw its responsibilities to listen to the ICANN community now that the GAC has an effective veto on ICANN policy. Ms. Alexander told me that I was entirely mistaken to think that the GAC had a veto.

Officially, then, governments are just one group of many that participate at ICANN. If so, ICANN and the GAC need to get the word out, because the rest of the domain name world is treating a letter from GAC head Janis Karklins as if it were the thunderous voice of God.

This letter, which warned the ICANN Board not to consider the Expressions of Interest proposal until the ICANN meeting in Nairobi, has been greeted with such headlines as Governments Deliver Another Blow to New Top Level Domain Timeline, and privately ICANN Board members have told us that it’s now “impossible” to support Expressions of Interest prior to the Nairobi meeting for fear of annoying the GAC.

[JamesZ]

Originally Posted by phio

This only strengthens the case of splitting off the 'new IDNgtlds' from the launch of 'new gtld process'

Internet content is now made up of more than 50 percent non-latin characters, this means there is a much greater need for adding IDNgtld extensions.

Verisign needs to step up to the plate, and talk to GAC and ICANN and the US Department of Commerce on this one.

The benefits for future commerce between the east and the west (more specifically asia with EU and US), far outweigh these delays.

Splitting IDNgtlds from new gtlds may not be a good thing for IDNgtlds. Since IDNgtlds will never get fast tracked, it is better to bundle it with new gtlds as they will surely come. After all, what does GAC really care? ASCII?

In an old Chinese saying, GAC is 醉翁之意不在酒。

[Rubber Duck]

GAC is one constituency, GNSO is another. Both need each other to obtain the Board resolutions that they need. ccTLDs aren't in the root yet, and if things get really heavy then the GNSO representatives are likely to block their inclusion. I think you will find that GNSO representation and influence is quite strong.

Also what most are missing here is that from the big corporation perspective DNSSEC is pretty crucial. The only people going to be providing this in the near term are Verisign which will glue corporations to the dot Com ext.

Originally Posted by abe

Interesting post:

http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2010...veto-at-icann/

And at the ICANN Studienkreis last week in Barcelona, I asked a panel that included Fiona Alexander from the U.S. NTIA how the Government Advisory Committee (GAC) saw its responsibilities to listen to the ICANN community now that the GAC has an effective veto on ICANN policy. Ms. Alexander told me that I was entirely mistaken to think that the GAC had a veto.

Officially, then, governments are just one group of many that participate at ICANN. If so, ICANN and the GAC need to get the word out, because the rest of the domain name world is treating a letter from GAC head Janis Karklins as if it were the thunderous voice of God.

This letter, which warned the ICANN Board not to consider the Expressions of Interest proposal until the ICANN meeting in Nairobi, has been greeted with such headlines as Governments Deliver Another Blow to New Top Level Domain Timeline, and privately ICANN Board members have told us that it’s now “impossible” to support Expressions of Interest prior to the Nairobi meeting for fear of annoying the GAC.

[Drewbert]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Also what most are missing here is that from the big corporation perspective DNSSEC is pretty crucial. The only people going to be providing this in the near term are Verisign which will glue corporations to the dot Com ext.

.org has DNSSEC, I believe.