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Old 22nd February 2010, 01:22 PM
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anyone that is involved with namepros. here is post from namepros.com/idn-discussion:

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Punycode is not just for unicode. It also encodes extended ASCII as I detailed earlier.
IDNs are represented in punycode at the DNS servers for lookups, but not universally at the DNS configuration level. Moniker for instances displays registered domain names in the proper langauge and provides the punycode in the tooltip. Registration is handled using the language specific letters. And my ISP's nameserver allows entry of domain in any language. So at the raw lookup level it's punycode but above that, anything goes.

Most of the user confusion stems from the mixed formats. Are users taught in any fashion that xn-- indicates a non-english character set, that it might be a fraud site? No.

The average user when confronted by www.xn--micrsoft-73a.com is going to interpret that as related to microsoft. People already see citibank.com when shown citbank.com or citibank.com.cn and that makes phishers successful. How displaying punycode is supposed to solve this for anyone but techs is beyond me.

An on-screen warning indication is what is needed. That's the solution provided for SSL, and it's one users are already familiar with. The punycode process should be hidden from the end user. At the very least, a first occurrence popup explaining what xn-- in a domain name is would be more useful.

If anything, they xn-- display will have the opposite effect - accustoming the user to the xn-- format and teaching them to accept nonsensical displays without question. The user never sees the special character in micrôsoft.com if the phishers show him www.xn--micrsoft-73a.com instead. But when he arrives at a microsoft look-alike site, he's more likely to ignore any fears and just assume it's another microsoft distribution site.
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Namepros is full of this stuff. IDNs have been around for so long, and yet even (ASCII) domainers appear to have investigate them as some amazing new invention and more often than not, completely cock-up the explanation of what they are.

In the end, it just shows me the average domainer is not smarter than the average bear ..... boo boo.
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This is a serious issue. One who confuses xn--micrsoft-73a.com with microsoft.com must have real problems.
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Trust me. Anyone who wants to navigate there in the first place must have Real Problems!
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One who confuses xn--micrsoft-73a.com with microsoft.com must have real problems.
Like seeing dead people.
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anyone that can reg a domain can call themselves a domainer the bar is set just high enough to trip and fall into it and the game is full of geniuses like that guy
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anyone that can reg a domain can call themselves a domainer the bar is set just high enough to trip and fall into it and the game is full of geniuses like that guy
yep, the problem is they are starting to "fall" into the IDN game. worrying times indeed
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yep, the problem is they are starting to "fall" into the IDN game. worrying times indeed
Get ready for a flood of "spoofing" Sedo and Ebay domain for sale threads. It shouldn't be too much longer.
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Get ready for a flood of "spoofing" Sedo and Ebay domain for sale threads. It shouldn't be too much longer.
I made you sign an NDA about them!!!
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Trust me. Anyone who wants to navigate there in the first place must have Real Problems!
Microsoft or Namepros? :D
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Microsoft or Namepros? :D
Both perhaps. :p
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I made you sign an NDA about them!!!
Well, I didn't call you out by name. But now since you've exposed yourself.

Face it Guru, your days of flipping meaningless domains to unsuspecting ebay goers is OVER!!!!
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Well, I didn't call you out by name. But now since you've exposed yourself.

Face it Guru, your days of flipping meaningless domains to unsuspecting ebay goers is OVER!!!!
And I suspect yours are just beginning The fight is on, and I've got my own popcorn this time.
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I like mine with extra butter.
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Is that "last tango in paris" kind of butter? If so, you win. I'm not getting in the same ring as you .... :o
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