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Old 5th March 2010, 02:12 PM
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.РФ Update

I hate to be the bearer of not-so-good-news, but here is the update.

http://www.rg.ru/2010/03/04/domen.html

Sounds like a delay (at least for a few months) and they are leaning towards the starting price of 1 million.
Of course, this is all subject to change.
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РГ : А почему так дорого?

Колесников : Это не даст деньгам утечь в карманы киберсквоттеров. Они всегда рядом, когда привлекательные имена доменов стоят "посильных" денег. Теперь представьте, что будет, если в первую минуту домены начнут продаваться по 500 рублей. И по какой цене имя ЛЮБОВЬ.РФ будет перепродано? Деньги от перепродажи в дальнейшем при этом пойдут ловким ребятам, которые, затратив минимум усилий, получат серьезные деньги на ровном месте. Поэтому мы решили собрать деньги сами и отправить их на полезные Рунету проекты.
RG: Why so expensive?

Kolesnikov: This won't let the money flow into the pockets of cybersquatters. They are always nearby, when attractive names cost an "affordable" amount. Imagine now, what would happened when in the first minute domains begin to be sold for 500 rubles. And how much will [LOVE].РФ be then resold for? Money from future [domainer] resale will go to clever guys, who, exerting little effort, get good money for nothing. That's why we decided to get the money ourselves, and use it for the development of Russia's internet projects.

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Колесников : ... Написать слово "ёжик" латинскими символами можно несколькими способами, а запомнить с первого раза правильный - трудно. А если в адресной строке вы пишете адрес по-русски, это значительно упрощает пользование Интернетом.
Kolesnikov: ... The word "ёжик" [hedgehog] can be written in Latin letters in several different ways, and to remember the correct way the first time is difficult. But if in the address bar you write the address in Russian, it significantly simplifies the use of the Internet.
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So it looks like phio's newly registered domain (Do Russians like "ежик") has been endorsed by Kolesnikov himself.

Congratulations!

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Kolesnikov: ... The word "ёжик" [hedgehog] can be written in Latin letters in several different ways, and to remember the correct way the first time is difficult. But if in the address bar you write the address in Russian, it significantly simplifies the use of the Internet.
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So it looks like phio's newly registered domain (Do Russians like "ежик") has been endorsed by Kolesnikov himself.

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Thanks Avtal Time to get a website for it: "Long live ёжик"
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re: .РФ Update

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I hate to be the bearer of not-so-good-news, but here is the update.

http://www.rg.ru/2010/03/04/domen.html

Sounds like a delay (at least for a few months) and they are leaning towards the starting price of 1 million.
Of course, this is all subject to change.
How is this bad news? It only minimizes the unfair advantage that would have occured if .rf would launch on April as previously planned.
By sept. hopefully both proceeses will be ready and launch.
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Re: .РФ Update

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How is this bad news? It only minimizes the unfair advantage that would have occured if .rf would launch on April as previously planned.
By sept. hopefully both proceeses will be ready and launch.
That would be nice.
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They sure are cute: http://www.ёжик.com
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How is this bad news? It only minimizes the unfair advantage that would have occured if .rf would launch on April as previously planned.
By sept. hopefully both proceeses will be ready and launch.
Unfair advantage?

The whole reason there's a .ru and no .РФ is because the Internet was originally built out on an ASCII platform.

The fasttrack process is all about cancelling out the unfair advantage that latin-based languages have.

Fasttrack is good for IDN'ers because it gets some usable IDN TLD's in the root - finally = exposure for IDN technology and pressure on browser manufacturers to get with the program.

Don't go jeopardising that by claiming that ccTLD's have an unfair advantage over some TM owning TLD operators.

Leave the TLD operators to handle ICANN. If the fasttrack process got halted due to claims of unfair advantage it could be another 5 years before we get IDN TLD's in the root. ONCE there are some IDN ccTLD's in the root, the gTLD's might be able to leverage some sympathy. But let's not risk progress by having people claim unfair advantage too early!
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How is this bad news? It only minimizes the unfair advantage that would have occured if .rf would launch on April as previously planned.
By sept. hopefully both proceeses will be ready and launch.
I call June 12, Russia's independance day for RF to be launched
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I guess one of the Arab cctld's will be first then...

Interesting...

or maybe Beckstrom finished all the
cnnic/verisign root DNSSEC/ICANN details for cnnic and the tw/hk/sg guys to
be first.

The silence from JPNIC is disappointing...

oh well.......

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The silence from JPNIC is disappointing...
But sometimes you get more accomplished in a faster period of time that way.
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I call June 12, Russia's independance day for RF to be launched
Much depends on what you mean by launched.

It is possible for an extension to be inserted in the root and not be available to buy. It is also possible for it to be available to buy and in Root but still not resolve, because it is not live at the registry. I personally feel that .RF will in be in the Root long before that, but some people who may technically own them may not be able to use them and most people may still not be able to buy them until June. There will, however, of course be lots of hype before that fateful day. Once the hype starts then the sheep will start to follow the herd.
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The silence from JPNIC is disappointing...
JPNIC isn't the one who gets to apply to ICANN for the Japanese IDNccTLD.

I would HOPE that their silence in because they're too busy upgrading their terrible registration system to bring it kicking and screaming into the 21st century, in the hope that if they do, they get to administer the new ccTLD because it's been made clear to them that there is no guarantee it's theirs to administer.
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Much depends on what you mean by launched.

It is possible for an extension to be inserted in the root and not be available to buy. It is also possible for it to be available to buy and in Root but still not resolve, because it is not live at the registry. I personally feel that .RF will in be in the Root long before that, but some people who may technically own them may not be able to use them and most people may still not be able to buy them until June. There will, however, of course be lots of hype before that fateful day. Once the hype starts then the sheep will start to follow the herd.
I mean for it to be launched to the public, but I am not going to be surprised if ICANN decides to pull the plug on the RF for a while, due to the personal pocket filling strategies of Russian bureaucrats.
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I mean for it to be launched to the public, but I am not going to be surprised if ICANN decides to pull the plug on the RF for a while, due to the personal pocket filling strategies of Russian bureaucrats.
It's sovereign property. ICANN can't touch it.
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How is this bad news? It only minimizes the unfair advantage that would have occured if .rf would launch on April as previously planned.
By sept. hopefully both proceeses will be ready and launch.
You are making the mistake of assuming this is a Green Field site. It is not. The relative power of the brands has already been established in the consumers' minds. We are only arguing about representation here. Frankly, many will continue to use the ASCII formats for the extensions. Unlike the Keywords at the second level, these take no effort to remember.
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It's sovereign property. ICANN can't touch it.
1/2010: ICANN announces that Egypt, the Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates were the first countries to have passed the Fast Track String Evaluation within the IDN ccTLD domain application process.

I am sure they can pull the plug at any given time

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Well, they can try.

But if they do it using the reason "we don't like the pricing methodology the Russians are using", they'll be pushing shit uphill.

Any backpedalling by ICANN on IDNccTLD's at this late stage would see a rapid splitting-off of the root, and ICANN and the USG would lose their position of power.
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