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Old 30th March 2010, 03:03 PM
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Can I have your help before the new gtlds allow applications...

The new gtlds will be allowed to submit applications as early as June this year (correct me if I am wrong).

I am almost certain .gay will be one of the first applicants. And I won't be surprised if they also apply for .gay in other scripts as well.

However, it bugs the hell out of me that the google translator (http://translate.google.com/) still does not translate gay into 同志. It also does not translate homosexual into 同志. Instead, it translates both gay and homosexual into 同性恋.



To prove 同志 does mean gay/homosexual, type 同志 into yahoo and google (or just click the links below), and the search results are all gay Chinese websites. (Don't worry about seeing anything too offensive. Chinese gay sites are very tame and the most you get are 2 guys kissing or 2 shirtless guys touching each other, etc.)

http://ca.search.yahoo.com/search?p=...8&fr=yfp-t-715

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&so...=&oq=&gs_rfai=



Also, 同志 is actually a search term that is many time more popular than 同性恋. (see google trends below)

http://www.google.com/trends?q=同志%2C+同性恋




So can I please have your help in adding 同志 to google translator?

To do this...

Please go to http://translate.google.com

Type in the word gay. Chose translate from English to Simplified Chinese. Then under "contribute to a better translation" paste the word 同志

Repeat the above for the word homosexual.

Since the word 同志 is same in both traditional and simplified Chinese, please repeat the above for translate from English to Traditional Chinese as well.

Thank you very much.

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Old 30th March 2010, 03:30 PM
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Re: Can I have your help pls...

btw, I already suggested 同志 to google translate many months ago.

However, today it still does not list it as the translation.

I am guessing it needs many different people to suggest it before it has any effect.

That is why I need your help. Thanks.

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Re: Can I have your help before the new gtlds allow applications...

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Also, 同志 is actually a search term that is many time more popular than 同性恋. (see google trends below)

http://www.google.com/trends?q=同志%2C+同性恋

This point is also supported by yahoo...



If you search 同志 at yahoo.com, the search result is 147,000,000

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fp_ip...8&fr=yfp-t-701



If you search 同性恋 at yahoo.com, the search result is 361,000

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fp_ip...8&fr=yfp-t-701
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Re: Can I have your help pls...

Sounds like you feel very strongly for the topic :/.

同性恋 is the proper correct way of saying homosexual/gay. 同志 is abbreviated/slang meaning comrade/gay.

Reason Google doesn't change it is because it is correct, don't think it matters how many people you get to suggest the shorter version
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Re: Can I have your help pls...

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Sounds like you feel very strongly for the topic :/.

同性恋 is the proper correct way of saying homosexual/gay. 同志 is abbreviated/slang meaning comrade/gay.

Reason Google doesn't change it is because it is correct, don't think it matters how many people you get to suggest the shorter version
Actually, if you are going to go there...

Homosexual is the proper correct way of saying homosexual. Gay is actually also a slang /abbreviation if you really think about it. cuz gay original actually means "happy"

ie. "I am gay" actually means "I am happy"

But I guess over the years the slang gay became official. Today gay = homosexual.

Google is clearly lagging behind the times if it still define 同志 as comrade. (yahoo will not get 147,000,000 matches if 同志 means comrade. )

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Re: Can I have your help pls...

Listen to a native's interpretation is always important and essential.
Mgrohan is right.

同志 is still the most popular and the FORMAL term for "sir", "Mister", "Madam" etc especially in government orgs, which you guys interpret as "comrade".
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Re: Can I have your help before the new gtlds allow applications...

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However, it bugs the hell out of me that the google translator (http://translate.google.com/) still does not translate gay into 同志. It also does not translate homosexual into 同志. Instead, it translates both gay and homosexual into 同性恋.
A lookup on homosexual using the MDBG dictionary does give 同志 in the results.

http://ta.gd/同志

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Re: Can I have your help before the new gtlds allow applications...

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A lookup on homosexual using the MDBG dictionary does give 同志 in the results.

http://ta.gd/同志

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Yes, thanks for pointing out to me.

Google translate is supposed to be an online tool that helps to translate websites. Clearly its not doing its job if its just translating 同志 to comrade.
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Re: Can I have your help pls...

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Listen to a native's interpretation is always important and essential.
Mgrohan is right.

同志 is still the most popular and the FORMAL term for "sir", "Mister", "Madam" etc especially in government orgs, which you guys interpret as "comrade".
Your post upsets me. Maybe you did not do it on purpose... but your post has the consequence of implying that I am trying to tricks others (who are non Chinese speaking) into helping me do something tricky/deceitful.

I am 100% honest! I am NOT trying to trick anyone into helping me do something dishonest.

Please just copy and paste the word 同志 into any search engine you wish. Then click on the results. I guarantee you that each and every one of those results will take you to a gay Chinese website. (NOT one will take you to a Chinese government website as implied by Markits!) No matter if you can't read Chinese. Pictures will speak a thousand words- boys kissing, shirtless boys, boys touching, etc. If 同志 does NOT mean gay/homosexual, I don't know what is!


If 同志 means comrade, do you think it would get that many searches on google trends???
http://www.google.com/trends?q=同志%2C+同性恋

and here is more proof...


Comparision using google...

"Results 1 - 10 of about 51,000,000 for 同志.(0.24 seconds)"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

" Results 1 - 10 of about 8,700,000 for 同性恋.(0.25 seconds)"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=



Comparison using yahoo...

"150,000,000 results for 同志:"
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fp_ip...8&fr=yfp-t-701


"370,000 results for 同性恋:"
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fp_ip...8&fr=yfp-t-701



Comparison using baidu...

同志:"百度一下,找到相关网页约86,600,000篇,用时0.078秒" (which translates to "baidu it, found related webpages of 86,600,000 in 0.078 seconds.")
http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=ͬ־

同性恋:"百度一下,找到相关网页约28,700,000篇,用时0.034秒" (which translates to "baidu it, found related webpages of 28,700,000 in 0.034 seconds.")
http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%CD%AC%D0%D4%C1%B5


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Re: Can I have your help pls...

What is the point to ask the same question again and again while you can get answers by reading mgrohan's and my posts.

You asked for help, and native members have given their helps, but you refuse to listen and believe...Good luck!
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Re: Can I have your help pls...

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What is the point to ask the same question again and again while you can get answers by reading mgrohan's and my posts.

You asked for help, and native members have given their helps, but you refuse to listen and believe...Good luck!
Clearly you are not reading my post before you post your answers. Anyways, whatever. Thanks for your help anyways.
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I swallow a fly..
no problem. I've been called worst before :D
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