IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names  
Home | Advertise on idnforums | Premium Membership

Go Back   IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names > IDN Discussions > General Discussion

General Discussion Feel free to talk about anything and everything in this board.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 7th May 2010, 03:22 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,320
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 1434
IDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Skype™ to IDNCowboy
Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

http://www.dropgrabs.com/WhatsNew/?p...opGrabs.com%29
Seriously this guy really thinks the Estibot appraisals are correct for these horrible names..
__________________
$995/mo drop lists available.. will be hand delivered by a playboy bunny
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 7th May 2010, 11:18 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY / FL
Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Domain Stryker is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

E-Mail Francois and let him know...
__________________
Expiring Domain Lists @ DomainStryker.com
SnapNames, NameJet and GoDaddy
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 7th May 2010, 11:25 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,320
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 1434
IDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Skype™ to IDNCowboy
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
E-Mail Francois and let him know...
Nice of you to join the forum. Are you planning anything strategic?
__________________
$995/mo drop lists available.. will be hand delivered by a playboy bunny
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 7th May 2010, 11:38 PM
Semi-retired
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Blighty
Posts: 5,531
iTrader: (57)
Rep Power: 3439
alpha has disabled reputation
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
E-Mail Francois and let him know...
It's Mike right? and this is your blog: http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-dom...omains-cctlds/

so excusing for the moment the whole idn thing.

What really caught my eye was how you have come to the conclusion that international traffic is worthless.

that's a pretty bold statement, care to back it up?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:02 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY / FL
Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Domain Stryker is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

It's not all worthless, I don't think I ever said that but a majority of it is and both you and I know it

That will change sooner than later, but when and how is the question.
__________________
Expiring Domain Lists @ DomainStryker.com
SnapNames, NameJet and GoDaddy
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:08 AM
Semi-retired
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Blighty
Posts: 5,531
iTrader: (57)
Rep Power: 3439
alpha has disabled reputation
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
It's not all worthless, I don't think I ever said that but a majority of it is and both you and I know it

That will change sooner than later, but when and how is the question.
In the same way that not all women are ugly, you focus your attention on the ones that aren't.

There's 293 languages covered by IDN I think, and yes I agree 99% of them are not worth going after.

But I don't think anyone has ever said there's $ in ANY and ALL languages.. just trying to get where your coming from.

surely the point is to chase where the $ is, rather than where it isn't?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:25 AM
squirrel's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,940
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 7080
squirrel is a name known to all
squirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to all
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha View Post
There's 293 languages covered by IDN I think, and yes I agree 99% of them are not worth going after.
There's more than 1% of the languages that are worth the investment, each to a varying degree. 1% would mean only 3 languages based on you 293 estimate.

My opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:26 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY / FL
Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Domain Stryker is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

My review of current idn and cctld' investment opportunities is a pretty straightforward one... Re-read it again and and again, hopefully you will understand the whole point if it didn't sink in yet :p

Somebody's gotta keep it real after all and tell it like it is.
__________________
Expiring Domain Lists @ DomainStryker.com
SnapNames, NameJet and GoDaddy
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:26 AM
Semi-retired
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Blighty
Posts: 5,531
iTrader: (57)
Rep Power: 3439
alpha has disabled reputation
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
There's more than 1% of the languages that are worth the investment, each to a varying degree. 1% would mean only 3 languages based on you 293 estimate.

My opinion.
It was a flippant comment, my bad. At a guess I'd say a dozen, tops.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:39 AM
Semi-retired
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Blighty
Posts: 5,531
iTrader: (57)
Rep Power: 3439
alpha has disabled reputation
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
My review of current idn and cctld' investment opportunities is a pretty straightforward one... Re-read it again and and again, hopefully you will understand the whole point if it didn't sink in yet :p

Somebody's gotta keep it real after all and tell it like it is.
Thanks for the suggestion I read it again, but I'm fine with just the once actually.

What I took away from your article is that you think these backwater domains do get traffic, and some pay well, but that the window of opportunity closed a long time ago, and therefore anyone playing in this niche today must be a fool because it's all junk now.

That sounds a lot like the current English (ascii) space doesn't it? I mean all the good ones went early...

But the thing is a ton of them dropped in 2004, and continue to drop, as people lose the will to live after waiting nearly 10 years. There is also an aftermarket, so genuine good domains do change hands.

and of course, the party hasn't really started yet, the last 10 years have been a warmup for the main event which is full IDN.

so again, not sure what your point is other than crappy domains are crap, and good domains are good - hardly a revelation.

I also like the part about the injury lawyers. Being from the UK where we don't have this ambulance chasing sue anyone be it your mother or a stranger for a quick buck, is alien to me, and hardly something to be proud of or to use as a benchmark that third world countries should aspire to.

again, maybe I am missing something, but your post seems quite frankly mainly just shock, awe and a sprinkling of anecdotal BS.

just my opinion, but that's what sunk in for me.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 12:48 AM
squirrel's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,940
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 7080
squirrel is a name known to all
squirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to all
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

I know your position Alpha, you've wrote about it earlier. I just did not want our friend here to think he had missed a good investment opportunity in just 3 markets, when in fact it's more like 12ish.

Just playin' Stryker, I read your blog post about cctlds and IDNs, you raised some good points for the neophytes. Your point basically is "do your own research", which is good advice in pretty much all spheres of investment.

However, I think you could have done a little more research for your article re: IDN.cctld & investment opportunities.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 01:14 AM
sarcle's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 3,717
iTrader: (22)
Rep Power: 1726
sarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enough
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post

Somebody's gotta keep it real after all and tell it like it is.

Or is it, you just needed attention? Are you feeling lonely? *virtual hug*

So you write a blog bashing IDN today and basically call us all scammers. Then you join the forum as if to tell us it's posted. Are you expecting some sort of rise out of us?

We've been dealing with people like you for years now. It's obvious from your blog you have no idea what you are talking about. At this point I think most of us could care less what you think.

Keep on beating that drum as IDN are going to keep getting more and more press as each new language is released. .com and .net will be aliased to native languages soon.

Thanks for stopping by though. Oh, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Peace homie.
__________________
I can hear the death rattle of fiat from here...
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 01:18 AM
squirrel's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,940
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 7080
squirrel is a name known to all
squirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to all
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Be easy on the guy sarcle, his readership probably can't locate japan on a map.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 01:41 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,320
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 1434
IDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enoughIDNCowboy will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Skype™ to IDNCowboy
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarcle View Post
Oh, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Peace homie.
You don't really mean that ...

I think you really meant ::sarcasm::


We don't need your type here. Let the door hit you on the way out.
__________________
$995/mo drop lists available.. will be hand delivered by a playboy bunny
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 01:50 AM
phio's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Arctic Circle
Posts: 1,541
iTrader: (31)
Rep Power: 670
phio is an unknown quantity at this pointphio is an unknown quantity at this pointphio is an unknown quantity at this pointphio is an unknown quantity at this pointphio is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

__________________
.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 03:19 AM
sbe18's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,334
iTrader: (10)
Rep Power: 1640
sbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enough
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Any 'expert' or blogger who comments on IDN's with a generalization
regardless of language is now provably clueless.

100% of Chinese provincial and national ministry sites now have
IDN dot cn sites , and their prior ascii. cn sites.

90% of the universities...

Eqypt and Saudi Arabia in less than 48 hours promulgated dozens of sites.

Germans have gone full committed to IDN's for umlauts and hyphens.


russia and china are next.


arabic/russian/chinese is very close to 2 billion people.
And 1 billion of these people have internet capable mobile phones that are
embedded with native language browsers.


domainer bloggers write as if people are dropping off their grid...

No....

arabic name dot arabic nation name is a natural way to type...
and now it will be a natural way to type on the location bar....


ascii provincialism will be viewed quaint by us here at IDNF.

and in 75% of the world in 5 to 7 years won't be viewed on their mobile phones at all.

s/
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 04:00 AM
domainguru's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,835
iTrader: (14)
Rep Power: 2514
domainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura about
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
It's not all worthless, I don't think I ever said that but a majority of it is and both you and I know it

That will change sooner than later, but when and how is the question.
Care to produce a list of countries where traffic is "worthless"?

Harder to monetize than US traffic for sure, lower CPM, sure. Worthless? Never.

Regional advertising networks are being rolled out all over the globe. A few years behind the States in most regions for sure, but so what, us IDNers are used to a few delays

But anyway, the devil is in the detail. You just can't generalize about "international traffic", as convenient as it is ... talk specifics, or not at all.

Also, if you are saying "US parking companies don't want to deal with the complexities of monetizing international traffic", that's fine and true to a large extent.

That doesn't make the traffic worthless, it makes the parking companies worthless.

Last edited by domainguru; 8th May 2010 at 04:07 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 03:42 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY / FL
Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Domain Stryker is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

I've dealt with lots of expired high trafficked domains over the years that mainly had visitors from China, Japan, India and other places in the middle east.

It's a bitch trying to convert that traffic... That's all.
__________________
Expiring Domain Lists @ DomainStryker.com
SnapNames, NameJet and GoDaddy
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 06:10 PM
sarcle's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 3,717
iTrader: (22)
Rep Power: 1726
sarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enoughsarcle will become famous soon enough
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domain Stryker View Post
It's a bitch trying to convert that traffic... That's all.
Actually, that's not all you said. I'm particularly looking at this paragraph.

Quote:
Most bloggers and media is talking about it just because somebody else is talking about it and that doesn’t necessarily mean that the investment opportunity here in IDN’s or ccTLD’s is a good one but who the hell verifies anything this days? No need… Because they take you for a fool. Yes, you… They feed you all this bullshit and you just eat it all up because it sounds so fun and exciting… YUM YUMM!
That sounds and reads like libel to me. So basically, what you are saying is that IDNblog, IDNnewsletter, and IDN sellers are liars and frauds.

Just because you don't understand IDN it doesn't give you the droit to defame most of the IDN community and cause harm to these businesses.

It would have been one thing had you just stuck to your ignorant observations about PPC. It's entirely another animal when you call the leaders of the industry scammers. Or maybe that isn't sinking in?
__________________
I can hear the death rattle of fiat from here...
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 8th May 2010, 06:18 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY / FL
Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Domain Stryker is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Domaining.com really needs to get rid of their "Junk" blogs

@ sarcle

everybody interprets things differently, because each and everyone of us has unique experiences and views on this stuff but you are totally taking what i wrote outta context

if there were scams going on, i would of said so... but i didnt. once again, you obviously didn't read what i put out close enough
__________________
Expiring Domain Lists @ DomainStryker.com
SnapNames, NameJet and GoDaddy
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:06 PM.

Site Sponsors
Your ad here
buy t-shirt
מחיר הזהב

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright idnforums.com 2005

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54