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コスメ.com cosmetics

any comments welcome on this name for development or otherwise. i understand the prime term is 化粧品.com , but trends and exact searches seem to favor コスメ.com
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

Exact searches clearly favor this term, though owning both would probably be best.. 201,000 vs 60,000 is a big difference. It is written in that script of japanese that is phonetic rather than exact symbol meaning.. so it could possibly also be used for other words that sound close to "cosmetic" .. "cosmo", "cosme", etc... but images seem to show that cosmetics is pretty much what is being searched with the term. Great commercial term and very high search count, I'd say 5k full retail value right now, maybe 7,8- 10k if it were the only term. Appraisals are a dime a dozen though and everyone will have their own take.. on the forum here, maybe 1-2k right now. For an exact number auction this one off and we'll all find out
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

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any comments welcome on this name for development or otherwise. i understand the prime term is 化粧品.com , but trends and exact searches seem to favor コスメ.com
Working with Japanese words for the last few years...... The one you have is in Japanese... The other one is in Chinese.. Different markets.
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

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Working with Japanese words for the last few years...... The one you have is in Japanese... The other one is in Chinese.. Different markets.
According to google trends, both are being searched from japanese locations, though the one listed here appears most popular. The other which you are referring to is a form of kanji which uses chinese sysmbols. Though the symbols themselves are chinese in origin, they still get used in the japanese language. The best way to determine if these chinese symbols are being used in japan or just in china is to use google trends to determine search location and origins. So basically according to those tools, both are from Japan, but are just two different writing forms:

Kanji - Uses symbols derived from chinese
Katakana or Hiragani - Uses strokes and symbols that are phonetic

Both systems are used nowadays in japan, some terms are only spelled out in katakana or Hiragana (like brand names, exact words sounds or titles of countries, scientific names, foreign words etc..). Trends and exact search volume are the best indicators in determining which actually gets used and in what form. Some only exist in one form of writing while others might exist in all 3 forms, the tools for search volume and trends are the best way to determine which is actually the popular form(s). If there are native speakers here that could clarify this that would be ideal.
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

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Working with Japanese words for the last few years...... The one you have is in Japanese... The other one is in Chinese.. Different markets.
LOL. Sounds like you still have lots to learn. Enjoy!
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LOL. Sounds like you still have lots to learn. Enjoy!
My mistake... I had a 7 hour flight yesterday with a fight that almost broke out... Longg day my apologies
I looked at it too quickly and thought it was the Chinese one...
Don't they both start with "化" ;-)
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

member and local native speakers comments "It's a shortcut of コスメティクス, i.e., transliteration of English "cosmetics". It's only a few years ago I learned such a word existed (I know next to nothing about cosmetics). But it's apparently been a popular word for a while, and women nowadays use this as a prime way to say cosmetics. The traditional word, 化粧品 is still widely used, too. But stats of Google, etc suggest コスメ has become more popular''
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

I would agree with that. They are both used but the kanji "keshohin" feels less modern.
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Re: コスメ.com cosmetics

Japanese love their abbreviations.
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