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Any thoughts about BP? Many domainers live in FL, has anyone smelt or seen the oil spill yet?
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I think when the dust settles, it will reveal that BP are the guys in the white hats and that the real cowboys come from Texas.

Obama of course will continue to run around and say anything that will save his skin in the November elections.
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yup - bp owns 65% share in the well, but so far is paying 100% of the costs.

Once all is out and blame and liability / costs are apportioned correctly this will be a missed opportunity for those that didn't take the chance to get the stock on the cheap.
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Once all is out and blame and liability / costs are apportioned correctly this will be a missed opportunity for those that didn't take the chance to get the stock on the cheap.
Until then the short sellers will have their fun.

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Goldman Sach dumped a ton of BP stock a day or 2 before the problems started.
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Goldman Sach dumped a ton of BP stock a day or 2 before the problems started.
Well, I kind of had Halliburton in the frame, but had no idea it was a set up job!

How exactly does one predict Black Swan events? Unless, you are somehow implicated?
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Any thoughts about BP? Many domainers live in FL, has anyone smelt or seen the oil spill yet?
forget about the stock (Russian TNk will prob buy as they already have TNK-BP joint venture once the stock tanks more), buy oil - if anything there will be more and more scrutiny and delays in any offshore/deep water exploration around the world = delays in oil exploration period
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forget about the stock (Russian TNk will prob buy as they already have TNK-BP joint venture once the stock tanks more), buy oil - if anything there will be more and more scrutiny and delays in any offshore/deep water exploration around the world = delays in oil exploration period
= less oil = higher profits.
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forget about the stock (Russian TNk will prob buy as they already have TNK-BP joint venture once the stock tanks more), buy oil - if anything there will be more and more scrutiny and delays in any offshore/deep water exploration around the world = delays in oil exploration period

i'm adopting an averaging strategy, intending to buy bit by bit, not more than 5% of my cash each time, as i'm more worried about the dow than whether bp will get into trouble. if the dow starts dipping again, everything including commodities will follow.

and china is going into big trouble. if that mother of all balloons burst, oil will drop below $50.

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Re: BP stock?

i live on the east coast of Florida, the local news reports oil is seen 4 miles of the west coast and is expected to make landfall on Florida's panhandle this weekend. the governor reports 7000 workers are on standby to fight of the oil if needed.
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i'm adopting an averaging strategy, intending to buy bit by bit, not more than 5% of my cash each time, as i'm more worried about the dow than whether bp will get into trouble. if the dow starts dipping again, everything including commodities will follow.

and china is going into big trouble. if that mother of all balloons burst, oil will drop below $50.
if by burst you mean burst-burst , than oil will be below $20

ultimately, I do believe that niether US nor Europeans have the balls to truly fix these problems (overborrowing, leverage, deficits) by restructurings/defaults (which is what should be done: painful = yes, but needed). Instead, it will be done by only way these guys (bernanke & Co) know how to solve = printing a sh*t load of money = inflate it away. Thus, go long commodities, oil, gold, whatever.
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Obama of course will continue to run around and say anything that will save his skin in the November elections.
You know, I still find this funny. How "they" have turned this into Obama's fault. If it were up to these retards the entire US eastern seaboard would look like the Gulf right now.

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"Drill, Baby, Drill!" you mean "Spill, Baby, Spill"
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first report of oil hitting Florida's coast http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...e=domesticNews
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Well, I kind of had Halliburton in the frame, but had no idea it was a set up job!

How exactly does one predict Black Swan events? Unless, you are somehow implicated?
Some people think Goldman Sachs has a staff of psychics.

Sounded reasonable, probably a few hypnotists to get bailout money also.
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Re: BP stock?

Royal dutch Shell /BP/ Exxon Mobil and 2 or 3 Chinese Oil Companies, plus the 2 gigantic Russian oil/gas firms have a strangle hold on industries beyond oil and gas.

ship building worldwide

very high percentage of steel graded for shipping that is not for buildings or bridge rebar

Plastics ...water bottles to toys.

The enormous sucking sound is oil/ gas demand in the 600 million or more
Indians, Chinese, African, and Latin americans achieving moderately higher standards of living. tuk tuks, to jeepneys, to motorcycles to small compact cars.

China's up and down demand is important relative to short term demand.
but most NGO's have not flinched on the 20 year indication of continued rise in hydro carbon demand across 5 continents.

11 men are dead.

As usual, the US press couldn't give a rat's ass for Mexico's or Cuba's shore line.

It is my hope that the correct BP and govt. officials are criminally charged.

With regards to BP stock, the City will decide not NY.
None will have to do a perp walk to a QB, or hire a powdered wig.

I think the Feds should simply buy and sink empty supertankers with
keels blown or peeled, over the well head for temporary storage of the blowout oil.

Regardless of if it takes 1 or 80.

5000 ft and bottom grounded.

Make a graveyard of supertankers down there, until a relief well is drilled.

And empty supertankers criss crossing with open water line intake valves for the surface spillage.
And to keep sinking a supertanker a month if need be.
Drill the angled relieving well, and then

Dunkirk at least showed that a leader can ask civilians in skiffs, fishing craft, or merchant ships to go in harms way. And the UK responded to save an army

I am ashamed that in the US, our political culture has foundered in both right and left, that we can't even ask our own citizenry in the gulf to get their boats out there, and for every US sailboat owner to donate 50% of his foul weather sails as boomgear.

I love the sea.
I spent 6+ years of my life at sea , mostly under it. (grin) in subs.
Oceanagraphically, the Gulf of Mexico is a tub.
No ridges and huge mountain ranges.

the usual 3 to 5 hurricanes per year are due. It is going to be a mess, as soon as one storm goes in there from the south then turns east back to the north east Atlantic. And then another. And high odds on a 3rd.

If the summer proceeds all the way to Sept / Labor day with no solution,
the US will endure a political revolution in Nov.
Every incumbent will be vulnerable for the first time in 130 years , since the Reconstruction after the Civil War.
Dozens of reps/dems will retire rather than lose.
Losing makes them less of a good lobbyist on the backside.

Then the game starts again.




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You know, I still find this funny. How "they" have turned this into Obama's fault. If it were up to these retards the entire US eastern seaboard would look like the Gulf right now.

"Drill, Baby, Drill!"
Obama is a klutz. He cannot distinguish between responsibility and culpability. The culpable will end up with the bill, which is why BP aren't wasting too much time arguing with him.

Obama is also wrapping himself in the Stars and Stripes without having a clue that BP is no longer a particularly British Company. Due to large acquisitions in the US it shareholders are substantially US citizens.
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Some people think Goldman Sachs has a staff of psychics.

Sounded reasonable, probably a few hypnotists to get bailout money also.
Yeah, funny I don't believe in coincidences, particularly where American Banks are involved.
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Obama is a klutz. He cannot distinguish between responsibility and culpability. The culpable will end up with the bill, which is why BP aren't wasting too much time arguing with him.

Obama is also wrapping himself in the Stars and Stripes without having a clue that BP is no longer a particularly British Company. Due to large acquisitions in the US it shareholders are substantially US citizens.
bp is 39% owned by americans! cutting the dividend will weaken their economy.

brilliant idea.
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Re: BP stock?

as a small bp stock holder now, i rather dividend be frozen until the extent of the damages is clear. :p

real time video footage of the leak - http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...ov_stream.html

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