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Old 29th June 2010, 03:41 AM
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Thumbs up cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

http://www.中国互联网络信息中心.cn/download/20...tationplan.pdf

and of course it is at :

http://cnnic.cn/download/2010/implementationplan.pdf

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中国互联网络信息中心.中国 will work for me in the States...

nice to read that cnnic is implementing ipV6

1.0 is certainly not 0.9 ...which is nice ...

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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

More importantly when this day comes 国互联网络信息中心.com will resolve in China and take you to a Namepros parking page.

Still it won't make much difference to those that are hooked on the Tamazapan.

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http://www.中国互联网络信息中心.cn/download/20...tationplan.pdf

and of course it is at :

http://cnnic.cn/download/2010/implementationplan.pdf

Looking forward to the day fast approaching that :

中国互联网络信息中心.中国 will work for me in the States...

nice to read that cnnic is implementing ipV6

1.0 is certainly not 0.9 ...which is nice ...

IANA....hello...anybody home ????

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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

David,

LOL,

sleeping pills / herbal remedies all around.

Yes, when the IDN dot com's start resolving in China, all of the
Chinese PRC based IDNer nonsense on 'gongsi' will be irrelevant, and all of the DNForums nonsense on IDN dot com's not being "real" dot com's will be irrelevant as well.

I never believed that their opinion or their lack of investment was relevant.




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Domainer hubris of pretending to 'know' what is good for China or for Chinese online marketing...
or
Chinese web savvy English speakers believing that 15 years of ASCII outweighs 5000 years of Chinese language development.


Again, not one tech site in English has addressed IDN dot com's or the looming entry of dozens of IDN gtld's .

They just take the ICANN press release, and that is it.



Verisign has seen the collapse of CNNIC's registry from 13+ million to 8+ million.

They know how many of their com/net owners reside in Chinese speaking countries.
And they know the breakout of Mulligan's xn-- numbers as well.

China is about to have its LLLL.com / mobi moment / ######.com all in one swoop at the beginning of 2011.


so yeah...the new dot com traffic at Sedo/ ND should be interesting once, the hack is no longer a hack....

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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

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Yes, when the IDN dot com's start resolving in China, all of the
Chinese PRC based IDNer nonsense on 'gongsi' will be irrelevant
I haven't paid much attention until now (my excuse being that I don't own any .cn domains), so here's a dumb question: Will the owner of [Chinese IDN] .cn be given [Chinese IDN] .中国 ? That is what I assume, but I don't think I've seen anyone say so explicitly.

As for the PRC-only 'gongsi' domains: I wouldn't count them out yet. When Verisign applies for the 'gongsi' IDN gTLD, I wouldn't be surprised if China raises some objections, and forces Verisign to do a deal. (China's leverage being the usual: threatening to split the root).

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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

Dot CN is by far the biggest ccTLD as far as IDN. Dot CN are the reason China split the root, or didn't you hear about that either? I am not suprised you are confused, Americans write so much crap about even the most basic topics particulary when Aliens are involved. By Alien, you can pretty much assume that is now anyone who is not from Illinois, but it was previous Texas.

Bottom line is CN registration has always automatically given you IDN in both Simplified and Traditional, and yes they do resolve if you are within the sphere of the Chinese hack. The Chinese of course want them to resolve everywhere, so they will remove the hack to enable that to happen. The hack has always been a bit crude and simply involved using second level registeries of dot CN to alias top level IDN. The hack appended dot CN to the end of every IDN, which basically meant any traffic that would have found its way to an IDN.com owner simply went somewhere else instead. Delegation of dot CN in short means we get our traffic back in the one country in the World where all Government site have an IDN equivalent. There are tens of thousands of big company IDN sites as well.

The Chinese are quite capable of forwarding IDN.IDN to IDN.cn or vis-versa and could if push came to shove migrate all the sites from dot CN to its IDN equivalent, as ultimately sites are hosted at IP numbers not Domain Names. If they wanted to, they could simply change all the IP allocations to the IDN version and establish a permanent redirection.

What happens in China is very important. If you ignore China then frankly you are clueless about IDN.
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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

The hack does not stop idn .com from resolving in china, it just enables the gongsi to some extent. Ind . Com s work as they should


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David,

LOL,

sleeping pills / herbal remedies all around.

Yes, when the IDN dot com's start resolving in China, all of the
Chinese PRC based IDNer nonsense on 'gongsi' will be irrelevant, and all of the DNForums nonsense on IDN dot com's not being "real" dot com's will be irrelevant as well.

I never believed that their opinion or their lack of investment was relevant.




re:
Domainer hubris of pretending to 'know' what is good for China or for Chinese online marketing...
or
Chinese web savvy English speakers believing that 15 years of ASCII outweighs 5000 years of Chinese language development.


Again, not one tech site in English has addressed IDN dot com's or the looming entry of dozens of IDN gtld's .

They just take the ICANN press release, and that is it.



Verisign has seen the collapse of CNNIC's registry from 13+ million to 8+ million.

They know how many of their com/net owners reside in Chinese speaking countries.
And they know the breakout of Mulligan's xn-- numbers as well.

China is about to have its LLLL.com / mobi moment / ######.com all in one swoop at the beginning of 2011.


so yeah...the new dot com traffic at Sedo/ ND should be interesting once, the hack is no longer a hack....

s/
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Re: cnnic's 1.0 root implementation doc posted.

RD,

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

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Americans write so much crap about even the most basic topics particulary when Aliens are involved. By Alien, you can pretty much assume that is now anyone who is not from Illinois, but it was previous Texas.

What happens in China is very important. If you ignore China then frankly you are clueless about IDN.
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