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Old 6th May 2006, 10:52 PM
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My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

I just caught two Russian domains: лекарство.com (medicine), and визы.com (visa).

These are my first Russian domains, so I have no idea what they're worth, or even if the the translations are right.

If you like them, feel free to send me offers.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

Good find. Big business in both.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

лекарство - medicine, drug
визы.com - visas (plural)

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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

Thanks. Any idea of the actual value of these names?
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

>Any idea of the actual value of these names?

Can you tell me what colour underpants I'm wearing right now?
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>Any idea of the actual value of these names?

Can you tell me what colour underpants I'm wearing right now?
Yes; they're white.

I'm obviously not expecting an exact value, but I just want something rough to go by. $5? $500? $50 000? I'm clueless.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

There is nothing much to guage the value of Russian IDN's as yet is what Drewbert meant to say...

Though 'big' terme like Moscow, Porn, Sex etc will always command 'big' prices in any language (In this case Russian)

Put them up for auction and see what the market says.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

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Yes; they're white.

I'm obviously not expecting an exact value, but I just want something rough to go by. $5? $500? $50 000? I'm clueless.

Very hard to say, but no Russian domain ever went for more than xxx that we know of. But that was in January (I think), which is a lifetime in terms of IDN pricing. So, it just makes it even harder to value.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

For Russian idns, the first thing that comes up to mind is - what if .ru starts accepting idn registrations?
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

Yes. That would put a spanner in the works for russian .coms both value and traffic wise.
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For Russian idns, the first thing that comes up to mind is - what if .ru starts accepting idn registrations?
It would create the same situation as .jp and .cn, just another option for reg'ing. Japanese they have now added .tv. In the end, a big money game for the registrars don't you think?
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It would create the same situation as .jp and .cn, just another option for reg'ing. Japanese they have now added .tv. In the end, a big money game for the registrars don't you think?
I agree. Japanese IDN.com has to compete with IDN.jp right now and no one is questioning their value. And from my simple little calculations .jp sites make up 72.5% of the Japanese internet compared to 76.7% for .ru. Not too much of a difference there.

The only language where I see little competition of ccTLD (now or in the future) is Arabic.
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

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I agree. Japanese IDN.com has to compete with IDN.jp right now and no one is questioning their value. And from my simple little calculations .jp sites make up 72.5% of the Japanese internet compared to 76.7% for .ru. Not too much of a difference there.

The only language where I see little competition of ccTLD (now or in the future) is Arabic.

These are the stats i got:


Results 1 - 10 of 113,000,000 Chinese (Simplified) pages from *.com for . (0.06 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 91,100,000 Chinese (Simplified) pages for site:*.cn. (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of 176,000,000 Chinese (Simplified) pages from *.com.cn for . (0.24 seconds)

.com:.cn -> 1.23:1


Results 1 - 10 of 22,000,000 Korean pages from *.com for . (0.14 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 30,600,000 Korean pages for site:*.kr. (0.03 seconds)

.com:.kr -> 0.73:1


Results 1 - 10 of 90,800,000 Japanese pages from *.com for . (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 292,000,000 Japanese pages for site:*.jp. (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of 120,000,000 Japanese pages from *.co.jp for . (0.05 seconds)

.com:.jp -> 0.31:1


Results 1 - 10 of 18,800,000 Russian pages from *.com for . (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 88,400,000 Russian pages for site:*.ru. (0.03 seconds)

.com:.ru -> 0.21:1


Results 1 - 10 of 68,000,000 German pages from *.com for . (0.20 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 361,000,000 German pages for site:*.de. (0.31 seconds)

.com:.de -> 0.19:1


Results 1 - 10 of 3,230,000 Greek pages from *.com for . (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 22,200,000 Greek pages for site:*.gr. (0.04 seconds)

.com:.gr -> 0.14:1


Results 1 - 10 of 3,650,000 Hebrew pages from *.com for . (0.05 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 25,300,000 Hebrew pages for site:*.il. (0.20 seconds)

.com:.il -> 0.14:1

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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

The numbers I get are somewhat different, especially for JP:

88.2M pages for Russian pages with .ru
18.7M pages for Russian pages with .com
8.2M pages for Russian pages with .net

292M pages for Japanese pages with .jp (I believe this includes .co.jp)
91M pages for Japanese pages with .com
20M pages for Japanese pages with .net
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I'm trying to get the Russian sales moving with different kinds of domains, but there seems to be a shortage of buyers.

At the same time, the number of .com registrations made by residents of Russia has seen huge growth over the last year. (See older posts in the News section.) We should be seeing more Russian language .com sites.

Part of this has to do with new repressive legislation that makes .ru domain owners 100% liable for any content on their site.

The official crackdown is on "hate mongering" and "terrorist" sites, but in fact, human rights groups and news media organizations have seen their .ru sites closed.

Many experts are advising a move away from .ru and importantly away from Russian service providers simply because you can also now be sued in court for content that someone else posted on your site: say in a blog, and you will be held responsible since you have "control" over this "mass media outlet" ie. your domain. There have been several court rulings to this regard already, much to the chargin of those who hoped to launch new "social networking" sites.

This and other factors make .com a good bet.

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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

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The numbers I get are somewhat different, especially for JP:

88.2M pages for Russian pages with .ru
18.7M pages for Russian pages with .com
8.2M pages for Russian pages with .net

292M pages for Japanese pages with .jp (I believe this includes .co.jp)
91M pages for Japanese pages with .com
20M pages for Japanese pages with .net

Some problems with my google output, adjusted.

idn.com is superior for Chinese (1.23:1 versus 0.31:1), yet is valued less than japanese idn.com.

Added more languages, pls let me know if figures are wrong.

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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

Try your exercise using Russia's #1 Search Engine. I think the results may be quite different.
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Yandex

Russian language sites in .ru
pages — 486 627 255, sites — not less than 77 539

Russian language sites in .com
pages — 65 507 741, sites — not less than 54 270

Russian language sites in .net
pages — 25 630 357, sites — not less than 1 576

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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

LOL - even worse than 0.21:1

Here are a couple of old threads about the same topic:

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/801-...trategy-2.html

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/743-...ortance-2.html
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Re: My first Russian Domains: лекарство & визы

It just occured to me that these ratios can also be used to explain type-in volume.

Type-in for Chinese and Korean idn.coms can be expected to be more than the other languages ceteris paribus.


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