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Old 23rd August 2010, 04:56 PM
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Top reason people missed on IDN's?

What is it iyo? And if it's still not clear to you that it is a huge miss, don't worry, it will be crystal clear 12 months or less from now.

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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

Top reason?

I'd say it's a combination of unrealistic faith in the greatest economy in the world, plus the belief that everyone in the world wants to communicate in English, even in their own regional business dealings.
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I'd say it's a combination of unrealistic faith in the greatest economy in the world, plus the belief that everyone in the world wants to communicate in English, even in their own regional business dealings.
Sorry, I don't get it. Why do you think people have unrealistic faith in the European economy? OK, I know it going to get overhauled by China and then perhaps India, but there are much worse places to invest than Europe!
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?



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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

the short answer: laziness

the long answer: because you need to spend some time to do the research to fully appreciate the opportunity. It is so much easier and requires far less imagination and brain power to simply join the .co lemmings
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

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What is it iyo? And if it's still not clear to you that it is a huge miss, don't worry, it will be crystal clear 12 months or less from now.
not too late , those who are willing to pay a mere fraction of the English names, can still buy great names.
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Old 23rd August 2010, 07:36 PM
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

hard to pick the top reason..

-english language bias US/CA/UK/AUS all being equal.
-dot com 'purity' bias ie IDN's are not real dot com's (xn-- is bs.)
-ASCII domainer / domain forum lemming bias ie Moonie name calling
-the Internet can't change to accommodate non English speakers...because that type of change would be un-American.
-IE6 browser bullshit, so it doesn't work , so it will never work
-cctld's suck, so idn.idn cctld's will definitely suck.
-I know (1-5) (pick a number of chinese/arabic/hindi/russian/japanese speakers) and they say they don't use them, will never use them, and their friends will never use them. Survey of (1-5 ) people being sufficient to stop any further research.

-no traffic ...no dice
-no SEO....no dice
-porn names should be in English god damn it..no dice
-no direct type-in ..no dice
-ICANN fast track is in its 5th year...QED...no dice
-a spreadsheet with 1000+ xn-- gibberish is just too hard to maintain..let alone look at


-shit....some guys named Wrixon and Snow have all names I want...screw it.
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

Come on, for God sake, open your eyes! DO YOU STILL DON'T KNOW HOW DO THEY DO IT?I'll tell you them: FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT! We need some fake idn huge sales that create a lot of buzz, that's what we need. It has been like that for every new extension launched and even for .com's. Of course you wont see this posted on any domain blog. (at least not the big ones...)
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Will we be seeing you in Prague? I'm about to buy my airtickets.
I very much doubt it, work is driving me nuts at the moment.

Many more days like today, and I will be serving time somewhere.
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

The reason is simple and obvious- they did not listen to RD back in the day. :p

He was just not forceful enough in advocating his belief in IDN.
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

Top Reasons likely to be the following:

1) No type-in revenue - this was the primary driver of enormous growth in English.com values.

2) As mentioned, cultural bias and unwillingness to think outside of the box as it exists.. kind of ironic considering everyone usually "follows the new trend" each time a crappy new .whatever extension was introduced, only to find that a year or two later it was nearly worthless.. so open to new .whatevers, but completely oblivious to strong search keyword terms in proven markets just because they're in an "unfamiliar" language.

3) Lack of knowledge and laziness. Most have not explored it because it is too difficult to determine translations / be sure of what they are getting. Spend some time analyzing searches, wikipedia entries, and google images and these things are actually quite simple to determine.

There are plenty of other reasons, these ones are the top.
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

1.) Rick told them not to.
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

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3) Lack of knowledge and laziness. Most have not explored it because it is too difficult to determine translations / be sure of what they are getting. Spend some time analyzing searches, wikipedia entries, and google images and these things are actually quite simple to determine.
I can understand why English-speaking domainers avoided IDNs; foreign languages written in foreign characters are intimidating.

But I don't understand why so many native speakers of other languages missed the boat.

If an American insists that all domain names should be written in latin letters, I put it down to provincialism. But if a Russian makes the same assertion (and many have), I am simply puzzled.

Anyway, as a latecomer myself, I'm glad that my competitors stayed away for so long.

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If an American insists that all domain names should be written in latin letters, I put it down to provincialism. But if a Russian makes the same assertion (and many have), I am simply puzzled.
Same with the "SEO Experts" that have posted and that are against IDN. It BAFFLES ME. IDN make perfect SENSE in SEO. That just proves how full of shit these "experts" are.

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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

That previous post should come with a qualifier. I think, generally, his advice is awesome.
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IDN make perfect SENSE in SEO. That just proves how full of shit these "experts" are.
That statement is so true it's just amazing how many SEO Experts really know f*ck all about SEO !!
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

As for Americans*:

don't expect people who wouldn't even find Asia on a map to reg Asian IDNs.

As for natives*:

there seems to be some sort of irrational underestimation of the importance of one's own language. Remember the Russians at domenforum or kartik on IDNF stating that Russian and Hindi names are worthless. And even in Germany I was talking about IDNs to a friend of mine who is a web developer of international standard and by no means narrow-minded. While he agreed that IDNs make perfect sense in Arabic or Chinese he couldn't believe that anyone would want Möbel.de or Flüge.com.

As for the whole domain industry*:

Everyone (at Namepros or DNF) is talking about opportunities, finding niches, going one's own way and all this kind of esoteric stuff. In fact they all do what they are told, they all do what the others do and they all do the same. How ironic that is.

*doesn't apply for members of IDNF
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Re: Top reason people missed on IDN's?

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... it will be crystal clear 12 months or less from now.
If that is the case, then, there is still opportunity there. So, no-one really missed on anything, besides renewal fees.
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