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IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

I have to nominate Network Solutions for the IDN Hall of Shame. They have a long history so you would think they would be a bit more progressive. I believe they were the first registrar...I do know they currently have 6 million plus domains under thier registration and were owned by Verisign at one time.

Their "Certifiied Offer Department" contacted me last week with an anonymous buyer that wanted to buy one of my Arabic domains and we settled on a price of $1,000. After a few exchanges of emails they were going to handle escrow and instructed me to unlocked the name and sent them the authorization code which I did.

Well seems that when it was time to transfer they discovered that the name was an IDN (oops....make that an "MDN" :p ....I guess their engineers nixed the transfer. And then I got this email:

Hi Bill,
As of February 28, 2004, Network Solutions, LLC no longer offers, or supports, Multilingual Domain Name registrations (MDNs).

As a result, the Certified Offer for this domain name registration has been cancelled and the domain name remains under your name.

We do apologize for the inconvenience.

Michelle
Network Solutions Certified Offer Department

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Old 6th October 2010, 01:20 AM
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

No comments. This HAS to be posted elsewhere, on a bigger audience.
Other domainers need to know this story.
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

WOW. That is all.

Maybe time to transfer your MDNs away from NetSol eh?
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These guys were pretty good in calling me at home when the bq-- domains were about to exipire to make sure I renewed them and got grandfathered into punycode.
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

What a bunch of tossers - unbelievable that this has happened !!

You might want to go and post this at MDNforums
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What a bunch of dumb fuckers!
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, at 09:43 [=GMT+0100], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Another one concerning Multilingual Domains.
> > >
> > > "On February 28, 2004, Network Solutions, LLC will no longer offer or
> > > support Multilingual Domain Name registrations (MDNs). A list of your
> domain
> > > name registration(s) affected by this change is provided below.
> > >
> > > In order to keep your .COM and .NET MDNs registered to you, you must
> > > transfer them to another provider before February 28, 2004. If these
> MDNs
> > > are not transferred, they will be deleted from our database which will
> make
> > > them available for registration by anyone. Your MDNs will continue to
> be
> > > listed in your Network Solutions(R) account until you complete the
> transfer
> > > process or until we delete them on February 28, 2004. You do not need
> to
> > > renew your MDNs in order to process your transfer.
> > >
> > > Please be assured that these changes only apply to Multilingual Domain
> > > Names. Network Solutions will continue to support your other domain name
> > > registrations and services.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions, please contact Customer Support at
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Network Solutions(R) Customer Support

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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

Date: 2004/1/15 AM5.15
Subject: Important Reminder on Discontinuance of Multilingual Domain Name Services

Dear Valued Partner,

Network Solutions(r) reminds you that we will no longer provide multilingual
domain name registration services or host multilingual domain names as of
February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and services not affiliated
with multilingual domain names will not be affected.

The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has also announced that it will
be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE encoded, from
its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions will be
deleting them from our systems on that date as well.

If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net multilingual
domain name registrations and related services, you will need to initiate a
change of registrar for those .com and .net multilingual domain name
registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that provides and
will host multilingual domain names (MDNs).

You must transfer your .com and .net multilingual domain name(s) and related
services to another provider prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the
deletion of your .com and .net multilingual domain name registration(s) and
related services. Please make sure to update your Partner Account and
Customer Account information to help ensure a smooth transfer process.

The existing term of your domain name registration will not be affected by
this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain name(s) prior
to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain names will be deleted out
of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net multilingual domain names
will be deleted February 28, 2004.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any questions
or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name registration(s), please
contact xxxxxxxx@networksolutions.com.

You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your allowing Network Solutions
to provide you with domain name registration services.

Sincerely,

The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program


(c) Copyright 2003 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

Date: 2004/1/9 AM2.30
Subject: Termination of Service

On February 28, 2004, Network Solutions, LLC will no longer offer or support Multilingual Domain Name registrations (MDNs). A list of your domain name registration(s) affected by this change is provided below.

In order to keep your .COM and .NET MDNs registered to you, you must transfer them to another provider before February 28, 2004. If these MDNs are not transferred, they will be deleted from our database which will make them available for registration by anyone. Your MDNs will continue to be listed in your Network Solutions(R) account until you complete the transfer process or until we delete them on February 28, 2004. You do not need to renew your MDNs in order to process your transfer.

The Registry for .ORG MDNs has also decided to no longer sell or support MDNs with a .ORG extension. MDNs with a .ORG extension will be deleted on February 1, 2004.

Please be assured that these changes only apply to Multilingual Domain Names. Network Solutions will continue to support your other domain name registrations and services.

If you have any questions, please contact Customer Support at mailto:xxxxxxxx@networksolutions.com.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

Date: 2203/12/31 Am6.27
Subject: Important Notice Regarding Discontinuance of Multilingual Domain Name Services

Dear Valued Partner,

We regret to inform you that Network Solutions(r) will no longer provide
multilingual domain name registration services or host multilingual domain
names as of February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and services not
affiliated with multilingual domain names will not be affected.

The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has also announced that it will
be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE encoded, from
its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions will be
deleting them from our systems on that date as well.

If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net multilingual
domain name registrations and related services, you will need to initiate a
change of registrar for those .com and .net multilingual domain name
registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that provides and
will host multilingual domain names (MDNs). You must transfer your .com and
.net multilingual domain name(s) and related services to another provider
prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the deletion of your .com and .net
multilingual domain name registration(s) and related services.

The existing term of your domain name registration will not be affected by
this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain name(s) prior
to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain names will be deleted out
of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net domain names will be
deleted February 28, 2004.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any questions
or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name registration(s), please
contact xxxxxxxx@networksolutions.com.

You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your allowing Network Solutions
to provide you with domain name registration services.

Sincerely,

The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program

(c) Copyright 2003 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

Date: 2004/1/23 AM6.45
Subject: Important notice regarding .org Multilingual Domain Names

Dear Valued Partner,

We previously informed you of the .org registry's plans to delete legacy,
RACE encoded .org multilingual domain names from its registry database on
February 1, 2004. The Public Interest Registry (PIR) has changed its plans
and has now decided not to delete legacy .org multilingual domain names.

As a result, Network Solutions will not be deleting .org multilingual domain
names from our database on February 1, 2004 as we previously informed you.
We will be in touch soon to communicate the steps you will need to take with
regard to your .org multilingual domain name registrations and related
services, as Network Solutions prepares to discontinue the provisioning and
hosting of .com, .net and .org multilingual domain names.


We apologize for the confusion. If you have any questions or concerns
regarding your multilingual domain name registration(s), please contact
xxxxxxxx@networksolutions.com.

Thank you for your patience as Network Solutions responds to these changes
in the industry.

Sincerely,

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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

I wrote to the lady at NS Certified Offers (well...so much for being certified after this experience) that maybe she should mention to a few of the higher ups at Network Solutions that ICANN, Verisign, CCNIC, JPRS, and probably a hundred other countries and registrars are working to implement IDN in gTLDs and ccTLDs....might even get her a raise.
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Don't expect these people to understand any foreign languages as long as they can't even properly use their mother tongue. It was Arabic and not fucking multilingual.
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One would hope that since they're not prepared to be the middleman in this transaction, they would provide the seller with the buyer's details if the buyer agrees to it.
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So you are out a $1000 dollars. You didn't contact Netsol; they contacted you. They, themselves, set up the deal then backed out. Sounds like you have monetary compensation coming to you Bill.
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One would hope that since they're not prepared to be the middleman in this transaction, they would provide the seller with the buyer's details if the buyer agrees to it.
No, I asked, but they refused to give out any contact information. Maybe the buyer will go thru another service if they are really interested. At any rate, no biggie...I had a couple of native speaker appraisals on the name, some thought the singular better than plural...others liked the plural.

At any rate, two suggested it was worth holding onto for $5k or more....Basel's opinion was that it was "the only prime terms for bookingS" (S=plural) and that the plural might be better choice than the singular in Arabic for a website.
BUT.....ANY OPINIONS ARE WELCOME....

حجوزات.com bookings.com
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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

Wow...the power of the internet. I guess someone cross posted this on another forum, then someone pushed that post up to Twitter and it got "picked up" by Network Solutions PR staff.

I just got a call from one of their VP's .... nice guy just wanted to apologize for them not catching the (IDN) before it went to negotiated sale. I just told him that I was pretty shocked that a company as big and as influential as NS was not supporting IDNs now that they were fully supported by MS browers, and ICANN/Verisign/Int'l Registrars etc are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on the worldwide implementation. Not to mention the 3.5 billion population of Asia that are heavy internet users and most non-English speaking to boot.

At any rate he indicated their current domains system at Network Solutions may not be able to handle IDNs, but he was not in thier engineering department. He did say it was going to be reviewed and they would look into whether they could/would support them in the future. I told him he was welcome to come on and join and post here.

Maybe something good will come out of this.....it would certainly be nice if an industry leader like NS got behind and supported the ICANN/ Verisign IDN rollout.

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Re: IDN Hall of Shame Nominee: Network Solutions

hey bill

حجوزات plural
حجز single

the single used for booking , domain registration , services registration and other some services

your plural are the only prime terms because the prime terms for register or registration for domains is تسجيل

hoojoozat.com this popular booking site in arabia mean your domain in plural in translation to english version

when i purshaced Tasjeel.com the english version for Register.com in arabic i got the help in purchasing it by Raymond , and raymond know that it was ok with me if i pay 15k and to win the auction
but Tasjeel.com can just used for domain registration

at the end your حجوزات is the only terms for bookings.com and if bookings in english worths thats millions and you are a people here believe in idns future so is 5k a high price for the arabic version

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Welcome to our newest member, NetworkSolutions
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