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Old 31st October 2010, 04:52 PM
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is there word "travel" in Russian?

There are words that Russians use for travel related services like

путешествие - trip (singular)
путешествия - trips (plural)
отдых - recreation
туры - tours
тур - tour
круиз - cruise
отпуск - vacation

but there was no universal word like travel. But now, for few years already, there is and this word grew to become a main term for travel. It is simply тревел - which pronounced the same way as travel in English. The word has impressive statistics (over 300K searches a months on Yandex only).

What do you think - does it worth registering .net version of this name?

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

I hope you did register the .net version of it - as it looks like someone has - Hopefully it was you.
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

Just looking at the number of uses in the travel related businesses on the internet makes it look pretty good. Hope you grabbed the net, I see someone has it toady with blind who.is....
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

Well tell me this....

Weren't many Russian people here telling us to avoid .net? .net = . no ?
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

IDNCowboy, from our, domainers point o view, I think, it doesn't matter much that .net means "no" in Russian, as for hot keywords there always will be a willing buyer who can't get .com/ком or .рф version of Russian IDN. Though it'll never be as impressive offer as for .COM.

I don't like .nets just because it's too much for me to keep dotcoms and dotnets - too expensive to keep it going. But in some cases it's impossible to resist. When somebody offers your $4K for .com and your refuse and .net version is still available, it's just so tempting to register the .net - I gather. (I had such case for another name when I registered .net). But my .NETs makeup less than 0.5% of my portfolio.

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

I wouldn't buy it.
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

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I wouldn't buy it.
I am curious....why not, because it is a transliteral?

Seems $5.75 reg fee would make it a cheap investment with a nice possible return.

A lot of the resale action in the next 5 years will probably with domain investors (most) that will be non-Russian speaking.
For my 2 cents, this one looks pretty good on google pages (commenting as a non-Russian speaker).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...AAAKoEBU_Q-r2M

The first page or 2 gives you these tour and travel agencies using that term,
a few I checked with "travel" in their web name use тревел in their website title.

coral.ru
west-travel.ru http://west-travel.ru/
gdenasnet.ru
vkotravel.com
jettravel.ru http://www.jettravel.ru/
transtour.ru
meridian-travel.ru http://meridian-travel.ru/
kivi.ru
actravel.ru http://actravel.ru/
tasstravel.com
allintravel.ru
1000turov.ru
louzhniki-tour.ru

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

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I wouldn't buy it.
What about an explanation to back it up so fellow domainers can understand?
Domains are cheap now compared to what they will probably go for in a few years from now.
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

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I am curious....why not, because it is a transliteral?
I was a bit of a hurry when I posted my previous message.
here are my thoughts about this domain name.
First of all, I prefer special domain names and I skip regular domain names. This is of course very subjective.
What makes me think it is a regular domain name?
тревел is not a widely used stand alone word in Russian
and you will not find it in most russian dictionaries.
I suppose that >300K searches this month and around 200k in the beginning of this year (according to Yandex) consist
for a large part (more than 50%) of searches for companies with names containing the word тревел.
I don't consider it a pure generic and it is used in several company names. I'm cautious about such words.
Considering the extension. Having experience with a <Russian IDN>.net with more than 5million searches a month
(more that 10 million last month, according to Yandex), makes me more selective/conservative.
Less than 500K per month (excluding approximate number of searches for company names) will not be on my .NET-list.
So why bother... I would rather spend paper money on one exiting idn than on 100 regular idn's. after QE5 and currency wars, paper money will not be worth much anyway

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

тревел is a word that is used in company names when they 1) are foreign and want to transliterate the word "travel" that is part of their company name 2) want to pretend to be a foreign company and use an English name but have to write it in Cyrillic for whatever reason.

It is not a word that is regularly used in conversations people have about traveling.

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

rofsjan, blastfromthepast, thank you for your opinion, guys. Maybe I made a mistake. Now it doesn't look so attractive to me. Okay - if someone wants it - I can sell it for cheap

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but...

but, there is another side to it too: travel.ru is one of the leading travel portals in Russia, if not the biggest one. And when I type "тревел" in Yandex - that's exactly what comes first - a universal travel portal, Russian leader of the industry in question.

What else? Okay - тревел.рф already pre-ordered with different registrators.

And do you know which site comes second on Yandex when I typed "тревел"? www.travel-skidki.ru. What does it mean? It means that word "тревел" is used not only by itself in the same meaning as English travel, but also in combination with other words. Travel-skidki means "travel discounts".

What else? Travel checks are just "тревел чеки" - so the word travel=тревел does seem to be used more and more in Russian expressions as full-fledge native word with a defined meaning - general, universal, all inclusive term that means just that - travel! Why does it happen? Why Russians need foreign word? I think it's just an accident, it just happens - Russian language happens not to have a particular word that defines new good, service or area of life/business or English/foreign word is just shorter, better sounding than Russian version.

So new generation simply uses it - because it's cool, it's simpler, it sounds better, which is another very important factor in the process of development of any language, and especially Russian.

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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

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тревел is a word that is used in company names when they 1) are foreign and want to transliterate the word "travel" that is part of their company name 2) want to pretend to be a foreign company and use an English name but have to write it in Cyrillic for whatever reason.

It is not a word that is regularly used in conversations people have about traveling.
Completely agreed.
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Re: is there word "travel" in Russian?

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тревел... It is not a word that is regularly used in conversations people have about traveling.
not yet, but if you ask any Russian what "тревел" means - everyone would say - it's a universal term for "travel". And this is not going to be smaller in time or less widespread. I guess by investing in domain names we, domainers, all bid on that - that usage of words would continue to grow with growth of internet penetration and that's what is happening to this word as well. Just matter of time.
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