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Old 12th November 2010, 03:00 PM
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idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

IYO,

Positive for idn .com
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Old 12th November 2010, 03:11 PM
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

Ultimate very good for IDN in general.

Competition for Cyrillic dot com was inevitable.

But this is good. Verisign will now know that they cannot piss about forever.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

Good questions, this opens up Russia to the world of IDNs in general. I'll bet many are not just thinking about the Russian language, but may begin looking to other languages as well. Ascii has dominated the URL bar, but many will see multi-languages in the URL bar as a new opportunity. A new gold rush. There are many Hebrew, Arabic, etc, speakers in Russia.

Positive for IDN.com (value has gone up another notch)
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

Definitely a positive for IDN.com. Raising awareness that Cyrillic domains exist, in whatever extension, is always a good thing.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

Positive. People now know that IDN and Cyrillic domains exist. People will start using it on a daily basis. I see no reason why they won't use .kom. (When it gets here.)

The value of .com is higher now. And will be even higher if these auctions are a success. The sooner Icann and Verisign get their heads out of their behinds the better.

The best friend we have at the moment is lack of email support. .rf won't be showing up in inboxes anytime soon. Well at least until .com is .kom.

+1 for IDN in general.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

It's not very good for now. but it's good for future.

Really very good - millions of potential buyers got information about idn from TV and Newsletters PR. Main thing.

Second thing - If you can't buy keyword .rf you can find it for sale in dotcoms. One keyword most better then 10 keyword+word in .rf

Owners of idn.rf can't sell theirs domains for the one year it's official rule.

But owners of idn.com can.

Also, alias for dotcoms can get half of power of .rf for one second.

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It's not very good for now. but it's good for future.

Really very good - millions of potential buyers got information about idn from TV and Newsletters PR. Main thing.

Second thing - If you can't buy keyword .rf you can find it for sale in dotcoms. One keyword most better then 10 keyword+word in .rf

Owners of idn.rf can't sell theirs domains for the one year it's official rule.

But owners of idn.com can.

Also, alias for dotcoms can get half of power of .rf for one second.
I didn't find any "not very good" points in your argument.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

"now" is about one mounth. :D

Untill rfmania is in process.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

It's positive for upcoming .ком, but the only thing that can upset you that .ком won't be more worth than the same domain in .рф
For example, let's guess that авто.рф will go for $50000 - it will be mid-hi $xxxx for авто.ком maximum I think.
The main goal is that the .com is not a king here but .ru is.

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It's positive for upcoming .ком, but the only thing that can upset you that .ком won't be more worth than the same domain in .рф
For example, let's guess that авто.рф will go for $50000 - it will be mid-hi $xxxx for авто.ком maximum I think.
The main goal is that the .com is not a king here but .ru is.
I seriously doubt that if авто.рф went for $50,000 then the most авто.ком (com) would go for is $9999. The main goal might be to make .рф King - but it's not going to be an easy battle against .ком (com).
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It's positive for upcoming .ком, but the only thing that can upset you that .ком won't be more worth than the same domain in .рф
For example, let's guess that авто.рф will go for $50000 - it will be mid-hi $xxxx for авто.ком maximum I think.
The main goal is that the .com is not a king here but .ru is.
Hey Purple,

You still trying to hold out hope for your now worthless ascii.ru's? How many .рф's did you get? Just curious.

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"now" is about one mounth. :D

Untill rfmania is in process.
Ah, wait until after the auctions to get evaluations. Got ya'.
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Re: idn.рф 250k+ registrations in 24hours, is it:

авто.su was sold for 30К, I think авто.рф will be 150-200К. Dotcoms will be
around 1/4 or 1/6 of .rf I think.

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авто.su was sold for 30К, I think авто.рф will be 150-200К. Dotcoms will be
around 1/4 or 1/6 of .rf I think.
So .com will be worth roughly the same as a dead extension? Wow.
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So .com will be worth roughly the same as a dead extension? Wow.
Auctions for idn.su were almost 3 years ago, since this zone for idn has turned to ashes.

Yes, I think dotcoms will be valuable as idn.su 3 years ago.

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Auctions for idn.su were almost 3 years ago, since this zone for idn has turned to ashes.

Yes, I think dotcoms will be valuable as idn.su 3 years ago.
Thing is; .su was dead even 3 years ago. Everyone knew this back then. .com was not; nor is it ever going to be. I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

But it's interesting to see other points of view on this. Thanks.
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Hey Purple,
You still trying to hold out hope for your now worthless ascii.ru's? How many .рф's did you get? Just curious.
No. I'm just telling you that while .ru is (now become "was" - here it may be) the king here instead of .com it will be the same balance between .рф and .ком.
So as described my russian colleague above you can explore the price of .рф selling and lower it 2-3 times easily (it's for END USER price, not for your sales here - here you can play with billion if you wish)
The number of my .рф's will tell ya nothing.
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The number of my .рф's will tell ya nothing.
It actually would tell me everything. I want to know how invested you are in all this.

Ascii(bastardised russian).ru = worthless now.
IDN.Anything = Much money to be made.

No one is "playing" for billions in sales. I understand there hasn't been a huge Russian market. A few xx,xxx sales here or there. But in case you haven't been watching the news; that just changed yesterday.
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No. I'm just telling you that while .ru is (now become "was" - here it may be) the king here instead of .com it will be the same balance between .рф and .ком.
So as described my russian colleague above you can explore the price of .рф selling and lower it 2-3 times easily (it's for END USER price, not for your sales here - here you can play with billion if you wish)
The number of my .рф's will tell ya nothing.
Let's also consider traffic. IF .рф eventually gets 2-3 times more traffic than .kom, then yeah, perhaps 2-3 times more expensive.
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Let's also consider traffic. IF .рф eventually gets 2-3 times more traffic than .kom, then yeah, perhaps 2-3 times more expensive.
.рф WILL get more traffic.
And after the first registratipns I can see the tendency that any second enduser can reg авто-на-продажу-в-москве.рф and it will look so cool on his offline billboard - he simply don't need авто.рф or авто.ком....
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.рф WILL get more traffic.
And after the first registratipns I can see the tendency that any second enduser can reg авто-на-продажу-в-москве.рф and it will look so cool on his offline billboard - he simply don't need авто.рф or авто.ком....
Actually you are wrong again.

Whenever I see "Tryandrememberthisdomainnamewhenyougethome.com" on a billboard driving by in a car. It's instantly forgotten and was instantly a waste of money.

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