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View Poll Results: What do you think the value of idn.ком will be compared to idn.рф?
The value of idn.ком will be more than idn.рф 13 35.14%
The value of idn.ком will be about the same as idn.рф 5 13.51%
The value of idn.ком will be about 50% of idn.рф 6 16.22%
The value of idn.ком will be about 25% of idn.рф 8 21.62%
The value of idn.ком will be about 10% of idn.рф 5 13.51%
idn.ком will have little to no value 0 0%
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Old 17th November 2010, 12:48 AM
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Value of .рф versus the value .ком

This may be a little premature, but I am curious of the forum's opinion. Apologize ahead of time if your perfect choice is not listed.
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Old 17th November 2010, 01:34 AM
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

For cities, regions and banned words, The value of idn.ком will be more than idn.рф...obviously
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Old 17th November 2010, 01:56 AM
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

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For cities, regions and banned words, The value of idn.ком will be more than idn.рф...obviously
There's also the wild cards. Domains that have been reserved by the registry to be used for other purposes. And many decent to great generics that were registered under the guise of a Russian "trademark" application that no one had a chance to register. To get a .kom you never had a chance to get in .rf will not hurt your business or a consumer's ability to remember it.

I also think there are many variables.
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

Does anyone know if single letters are reserved?
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Old 17th November 2010, 02:32 AM
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

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Does anyone know if single letters are reserved?
Looks like they are.

3.3.2.1. минимальная длина доменного имени составляет 2 символа (без учета символов «.РФ»). Максимальная длина доменного имени определяется длиной представления. Длина представления не должна превышать 63 символа (без учета символов «.РФ»);

http://www.cctld.ru/ru/docs/rulesrf.php
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

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Looks like they are.

3.3.2.1. минимальная длина доменного имени составляет 2 символа (без учета символов «.РФ»). Максимальная длина доменного имени определяется длиной представления. Длина представления не должна превышать 63 символа (без учета символов «.РФ»);

http://www.cctld.ru/ru/docs/rulesrf.php
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

So far, 30% think it will be worth more, 70% same or below
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

I would like to say that you never know what will going to happen with your .рф. domain.

For me is a risky business. One day you will have it , on the next day they can change the rules and you can lost it because you have some improper material.

For me .ком is more secure.
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

Go with what you know you will still own the next morning (assuming you continuously renew )
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

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Go with what you know you will still own the next morning (assuming you continuously renew )
I agree, but that isn't what the poll is asking.

For investors, .ком is more attractive. But the price difference (if any) between .ком and .рф will be driven by end users, most of whom live in Russia. They have already figured out how to run their businesses in Russia, so they may not be as bothered as we are by the uncertainty surrounding .рф domains.

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I agree, but that isn't what the poll is asking.

For investors, .ком is more attractive. But the price difference (if any) between .ком and .рф will be driven by end users, most of whom live in Russia. They have already figured out how to run their businesses in Russia, so they may not be as bothered as we are by the uncertainty surrounding .рф domains.

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True, there was a huge amount of uncertainty with .ru as well, but most Russians didn't seem to care.

I'd guess around 25% with a few exeptions (the ones you cant get in .рф).
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True, there was a huge amount of uncertainty with .ru as well, but most Russians didn't seem to care.
that's because there wasn't any alternative.
.ru was the most russian you could get back then.

The Russian people are hungry for russian domains,
at 10$ a pop, first come first served basis, no auction BS, + guarantee that you won't lose your domain, goodwill and incoming mails overnight on some shady tax evasion/morality/TM/national interest/you-name-it issue, .ком will find some takers.

But at the end of the day, traffic is king :p
What will the Russians/Kazakhs/Ukrainians type-in ? I don't know.

Will international brands use .рф and redirect .ком ? don't know

Will the "Russian Internet Police" park at Sedo or Namedrive ? don't know



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Well, it is very slow but the dot RU registery already seems to be contracting.
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

squirrel - very good point about the other russian speaking countries. For me .ком will be the king in that case and .ком always will be over nationality domain.

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Demand is so high, you'll see good prices.

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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

I'm utterly shocked that 12 people said worth more. The only educated conclusion I can come up with is you all believe that government corruption will significantly devalue the .rf. I realize it is all a matter of opinion, but I think many of you are eternal optimists!
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Re: Value of .рф versus the value .ком

The big corporations may just hold their .рф and not develop it... may just hold out for an offer........... Ya know all the shell companies registering the names
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I'm utterly shocked that 12 people said worth more. The only educated conclusion I can come up with is you all believe that government corruption will significantly devalue the .rf. I realize it is all a matter of opinion, but I think many of you are eternal optimists!
While corruption is something many in Russia embrace, risk is something everyone tries to avoid.

Many major Russian companies are in fact incorporated in off-shore countries. Why? To get away from the risk of property confication. Exactly the same reason why one would want to avoid operating a website .РФ. Example: domain owner is responsible for all user content on domain (no operator safe harbor laws).

The excitement is about IDN.IDN, and the only choice available right now is IDN.РФ. If .КОМ was on offer today, you'd see a different picture as well.

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