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Exclamation .РФ Auctions Canceled

Coordination center for .РФ cancels auctions.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/newspaper/ar...8/rf_pod_zamok

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it's turning into a shit-storm
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

can someone provide an accurate translation of the linked article's last paragraph.
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

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can someone provide an accurate translation of the linked article's last paragraph.
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Если Ru-Center не вернет домены первым заявителям и не откажется от аукционов, то КЦ заморозит их использование, говорит Колесников. Воробьев из Ru-Center считает, что это равносильно передаче доменов киберсквоттерам, так как именно их заявки были первыми. Избежать конфликта можно было бы, если бы КЦ провел «голландский аукцион» (с понижением стоимости), считает Воробьев: это единственный способ отпугнуть киберсквоттеров, которые не будут предлагать за домен по миллиону рублей и больше, иначе потом не смогут заработать на перепродаже. Но КЦ отказался от голландского аукциона из-за возражений ФАС: стартовая цена в 10 000 руб. показалась ведомству завышенной. При запуске домена .tel Ru-Center тоже собирала заявки, проводила закрытый аукцион — и никаких жалоб не было, говорит Воробьев. Но не было и такого ажиотажа, как в случае с «.рф», замечает менеджер другого крупного регистратора.

If Ru-Center does not return the domains to the first requesters and does not refrain from holding auctions, the the Coordination Center will lock them up and prevent them from being used, said Kolesnikov. Vorobyev of Ru-Center said that this is the equivallent of transfering the domains themselves to cybersquatters, because it is them who put forth the first requests. To avoid a row, the Coordination Center could have held a "Dutch auction" (with descending prices), says Vorobyev: this would have been the only way to scare off cybersquatters, who wouldn't offer for a domain more than a million rubles or more or they wouldn't be able to make a profit from the resale of these names. But the Coordination Center turned down the idea of holding a Dutch auction because the Federal Anti-Monopoly Service objected: the starting price of 10 000 rubles seemed to them to be too high. When the domain .tel was launched, Ru-Center also took bids, and held closed auctions, but there were no complaints, says Vorobyev. But there wasn't the same hype, as in the case of .рф, says the manager of another large registrar.

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

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Если Ru-Center не вернет домены первым заявителям и не откажется от аукционов, то КЦ заморозит их использование, говорит Колесников.

If RU-Center does not return the domains to the first requesters and does not refrain from holding auctions, the the Coordination Center will lock them up and prevent them from being used, said Kolesnikov.
how stupid is that.

It's as if CC doesn't want anybody, registrar or registrant, to make money out of this. WTF
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I have a feeling that this is only the beginning.

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

thanks blast
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

I was expecting to see a lot of angry people but I was not expecting them to be successful. This is getting interesting by the minute.

Meanwhile the article still sounds to me like "we'll look into it". There is no legal authority yet to stop the auctions. Maybe after the fact. Am I reading it wrong? The funny thing is there are a few hours left and the bidding is still going on at this very moment.

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

Now is a good time to take your money back or whats left of it with the registrars and run.
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

this is like shooting all the horses at the final turn, and making the jockeys sprint for the tape...

wow...what a clusterf$$k.
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

And now you can't login to nic.ru at all in these last minutes for some domains. I don't know if it is a way of saying they stopped the auction or if it means they can't handle the traffic. What a mess.
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

I don't know if this is according to the rules but some auctions that were scheduled to close today, and had people bidding on them got extended to tomorrow. In addition some auctions that had no live bidders also got extended.

Rick did say something about 3rd world...
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

This will only serve to increase the value of cryllic idn.com.
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

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this is like shooting all the horses at the final turn, and making the jockeys sprint for the tape...


We will see. Kolesnikov (head of the Coordination Center) doesn't always have the final word. He tried to prevent the registration of секс .рф (sex .rf), by changing the deadline by which trademarks had to be registered, but was overruled.

There is a lot of money at stake. If individual domainers get their hands on the high-value domains for reg fee, the profits are spread among all those forturnate individuals. On the other hand, if the domains sell at auction, the profits accrue to the registrars, forming a nice pot of money, all in one place. Some might consider this more convenient.

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

This is greed to the extreme. It looks like people at the very top saw that they could make money more than what they thought and pull the plug to take it all at the expense of people already lured into the game.

Like Bill said this will help reinforce the stability of idn.com among Russians. We should have seen this coming. If they could screw the registrants of idn.ru by not giving them the idn.idn version like what China and many other countries have done (which I believe is the right thing to do), they have loyalty to no one and are not concerned about any rule or credibility.
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This is greed to the extreme. It looks like people at the very top saw that they could make money more than what they thought and pull the plug to take it all at the expense of people already lured into the game.

Like Bill said this will help reinforce the stability of idn.com among Russians. We should have seen this coming. If they could screw the registrants of idn.ru by not giving them the idn.idn version like what China and many other countries have done (which I believe is the right thing to do), they have loyalty to no one and are not concerned about any rule or credibility.
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«Как мы будем поступать с регистраторами-нарушителями – дело десятое, это наши внутренние дела и они происходят в рамках установленных отношений, конечный пользователь здесь ни при чем. А вот если по решению ФАСа или судов регистрация этих сотен тысяч доменов будет отменена – ситуация может сложиться катастрофическая. И мы делаем все, чтобы этого не допустить», – подчеркнул Андрей Колесников. И добавил, что если признаков нарушения в действиях регистраторов не будет найдено, то действия с аукционными доменами могут быть восстановлены.

"How we are going to deal with registrars that didn't follow the rules, that is the least of our concerns, this is an internal matter, and is dealt with based on established relationships, in any case, the end user is not concerned with this. But if based on the decision of the Federal Anti-Monopoly Service or the courts the registration of hundreds of thousands of domains will be canceled, the situation may become catastrophic. And we are doing everything we can, to prevent this." said Andrey Kolesnikov. He added that if no violations on the part of registrars will be found, then the domain auctions could resume.

http://cctld.ru/ru/press_center/news...il.php?ID=1092

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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

what a mess.
registrars hording names, and reports of registrars falsifying date stamps so they can go in front of a buyer , plus final 1-2 minute page freezes on auction pages.

they should have contracted this whole thing to Sedo or GoDaddy.....

if you are competing with the registrar you're using, how is there any hope of a fair process for customer service on separate issues, if they screwed you on a name....
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Re: .РФ Auctions Canceled

SEDO?

They were "in on it" for the .de numeric drop.

If they'd got involved in .РФ it wouldn't have been to make friends with registrants!
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