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Old 3rd March 2011, 03:38 PM
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Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

Ukraine's application for .укр passes string evaluation.

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

It's good they got that done before the newgTLD process started or someone might have got .ykp and screwed things up for them.

Hopefully they get it as a variant
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

Where's Bulgaria? Oh yeah, they'd rather hold up their people's ability to use the Internet in their own language just to show ICANN how big of hardasses they are.

I do love the comments though. "We can only use .br because, well, we are Bulgaria." ".br doesn't look like .br to me." "We need .br to navigate the Internet."

Sorry whiners, "NO SOUP FOR YOU!"

Meanwhile, the world is moving on. Well, everything except for IDN gTLDs.

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

Bulgaria is spelled България. There is nothing is stopping them taking бъ, бл, бъл, or бълг, the last one is actually pretty common as an abbreviation, while бъ and бъл are the most promounceable ones.

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

.блг would fit right in.
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

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Bulgaria is spelled България. There is nothing is stopping them taking бъ, бл, бъл, or бълг, the last one is actually pretty common as an abbreviation, while бъ and бъл are the most promounceable ones.
The best part about the "Bulgarian situation" is them pretending as if it's ICANN that's holding them up. When they can obviously apply for another string and contest .бг after the fast track. Or are they just tight asses? Can't afford another application fee, maybe?
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

How much is having a third letter going to cost everyone? A lot. Why didn't they go for .ук?

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

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How much is having a third letter going to cost everyone? A lot. Why didn't they go for .ук?

Probably didn't wanna take a chance on being rejected for confusing similarity with .uk
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Probably didn't wanna take a chance on being rejected for confusing similarity with .uk
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has two domains: .uk and .gb.

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.gb is a reserved Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for the United Kingdom. Introduced at the same time as the UK's other top-level domain (.uk), it was never widely used. It is no longer possible to register under this domain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gb
So if Northern Ireland gets independence, will there be a switch to .gb, already held in reserve?

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

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The best part about the "Bulgarian situation" is them pretending as if it's ICANN that's holding them up. When they can obviously apply for another string and contest .бг after the fast track. Or are they just tight asses? Can't afford another application fee, maybe?


Not true.
Just the community doesn`t want anything different that .бг
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

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Not true.
Just the community doesn`t want anything different that .бг
My post was rhetorical but since you answered.

When referring to "the community" you mean the whole five people that posted complaints?

You guys knew from the start there was a chance that you may not be awarded this extension; for obvious reasons. You even held a poll for other extensions in case you didn't get awarded .br; for obvious reasons.

The poll:

A third of the respondants chose .br
A third of the respondants chose .brp

So when you say "the community doesn't want anything different than .br." They've shown with your own poll they would take another extension. And actually just as many liked .brp.

http://sofiaecho.com/2010/01/11/8405...p-domain-level

Bulgarian Extension Poll

What's keeping your citizens from using that other extension? Only you. But keep pretending it's ICANN.

But, I know you've been given orders to "not give up".

So carry on.
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

Another poll was held immediately after the DNS stability panel rejected the application.
I don`t know why its not on the ministry website, but the annoucnment is here - http://www.mtitc.government.bg/page....ory=92&id=4312

The results were:

Votes: 1563
Topic: Please select an IDN ccTLD for Bulgaria

Results:
- I don`t want an IDN ccTLD if its not "бг" - 65.6%
- I don`t want an IDN ccTLD at all - 9.7%
- бгр - 11.6%
- българия - 3.8%
- бя - 2.0%
- бъл - 7.3%

If you read the DNS stability panel arguments you will see why Bulgarians insist on .бг
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Another poll was held immediately after the DNS stability panel rejected the application.
I don`t know why its not on the ministry website, but the annoucnment is here - http://www.mtitc.government.bg/page....ory=92&id=4312

The results were:

Votes: 1563
Topic: Please select an IDN ccTLD for Bulgaria

Results:
- I don`t want an IDN ccTLD if its not "бг" - 65.6%
- I don`t want an IDN ccTLD at all - 9.7%
- бгр - 11.6%
- българия - 3.8%
- бя - 2.0%
- бъл - 7.3%

If you read the DNS stability panel arguments you will see why Bulgarians insist on .бг
You can make any poll look like you want after the fact. The fact is Bulgarians already chose another extension long before you were denied.

I would, not knowing the circumstances regarding this poll. Chalk this up to the, "We can't have it. So we want it even more syndrome."

I think this song sums up your plight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIX0ZDqDljA

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

There is one more option: change the name of the country. The connection of modern Bulgaria to ancient Bulgars is tenenous at best.

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There is one more option: change the name of the country.
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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has two domains: .uk and .gb.



So if Northern Ireland gets independence, will there be a switch to .gb, already held in reserve?


If they get independence they can apply for their own cctld (.NIR?) like Serbia did, but what does it have to do with confusing similarity?

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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

From what I understand, Bulgaria was denied .бг for the fast track process. According to ICANN's response to Bulgaria's petition for reconsideration, the Fast Track process doesn't have a guideline in place to deal with appeals. They just want to fast-track the tlds with no issues atm.

So, eventually, Bulgaria might get .бг after all; just no fast track.


Btw, there was a city somewhere in the U.S. which changed its official name to "something".com a few years back...
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Re: Ukraine's idn cctld request passes string evaluation

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From what I understand, Bulgaria was denied .бг for the fast track process. According to ICANN's response to Bulgaria's petition for reconsideration, the Fast Track process doesn't have a guideline in place to deal with appeals. They just want to fast-track the tlds with no issues atm.

So, eventually, Bulgaria might get .бг after all; just no fast track.
Looks like it: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comme...18feb11-en.pdf

1. A large number of comments were received from individuals and entities in the Bulgarian
Internet community, asking that ICANN re-evaluate the Bulgarian IDN ccTLD request for
.bg in Cyrillic. Many questioned the transparency of the decision that found the applied for
Bulgarian string was too similar to .br.
Several commenters proposed that the requested
string is not confusable with “.br.” The commenters further proposed that because the
proposed string is not confusable with .br, the applied-for string should be accepted by
ICANN within the Fast Track Process. Alternatively, the Country Code Names Supporting
Organization (ccNSO) stated that disputes and objection/re-evaluation are policy issues that
should not be addressed through an amendment to the Fast Track Process.
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If they get independence they can apply for their own cctld (.NIR?) like Serbia did, but what does it have to do with confusing similarity?
If they get independence, there will no longer be a United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland. There will only be a Great Britain with the .gb domain, and a new domain made for Northern Ireland.

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