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Old 25th May 2011, 06:03 PM
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DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

http://domenforum.net/showthread.php...586#post938586

Local guys starting to build 'portfolios' it seems as well: http://vipname.net/kirillicheskie_domeny.html
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A good sign.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

Got an offer of $150 for a Bulgarian IDN ( a product category noun) from these guys - http://www.cloxy.com/ - so the SEO dudes in Bulgaria are awaking.
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Not surprising.

We have record earnings for May with nearly a week to go.
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Not surprising.

We have record earnings for May with nearly a week to go.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

And another one looking for one word .com (.ком) for up to $1200

I would also love to buy a Tokyo penthouse for up to $12000 so if you guys hear anything...
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Times are definately changing. Did domenforum change ownership?
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Times are definately changing. Did domenforum change ownership?
Struggling to see how anyone looking for good IDNs in any language with a $1K budget is good news? This ain't 2002.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

Yeah, cyrillic interest has picked up. While I was wondering where the offers even were a few months ago. Now, it's just silly. $15 for a domain that I've been holding for 5 years. lol. Yeah, okay.

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Hello XXXX,

Thanks for the offer. I'm sorry, the price I'm looking for on this domain isn't anywhere near the price you offered to even begin negotiations. It is available in .tel though. Best of luck.

Cheers
Is now a canned response for these "domainers" that just woke up and think they get to play for monopoly money.
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Yeah, cyrillic interest has picked up. While I was wondering where the offers even were a few months ago. Now, it's just silly. $15 for a domain that I've been holding for 5 years. lol. Yeah, okay.



Is now a canned response for these "domainers" that just woke up and think they get to play for monopoly money.
Well, I guess that is better than my "Ha Ha".
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Yeah, cyrillic interest has picked up. While I was wondering where the offers even were a few months ago. Now, it's just silly. $15 for a domain that I've been holding for 5 years. lol. Yeah, okay.



Is now a canned response for these "domainers" that just woke up and think they get to play for monopoly money.

The problem we have is people coming to this forum and finding that they can actually pick up some good names in most languages for not much at all! Simple look at the auctions and sales threads.
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The problem we have is people coming to this forum and finding that they can actually pick up some good names in most languages for not much at all! Simple look at the auctions and sales threads.
Few will be going for less than daily earnings!
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The problem we have is people coming to this forum and finding that they can actually pick up some good names in most languages for not much at all! Simple look at the auctions and sales threads.
Which makes me wonder why they aren't here buying. I'm watching that membership count go up and up and only a handful of new players are actually bidding on domains.

They'd rather make an embarrassing unsolicited email offer than bid $20-$100 on a decent name here to have in their portfolio. Doesn't make sense to me either.

Unfortunately we aren't at critical mass yet. Where most people even know about IDN. "The average everyday web-surfer." I still think it'll happen only when email arrives. Others may and do disagree. But that's my theory. Once IDN is in the inboxes of all native speakers around the world will be when we have "made it."

Until then, I'll keep putting my parking check back into renewals that are getting closer everday to paying for themselves. Japanese is there. Russian... I don't know what is going on with that payout rate but the math is a little fuzzy. As I'm only getting a fraction of 1% of what advertisers are actually paying. And I don't think it's Google lying to me.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

Have you tried optimizing with english keywords ?
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Have you tried optimizing with english keywords ?
Isn't that self-defeating? Has anyone else tried this and recieved good results? I'd love to hear more on this as I'm tired of throwing my cyrillic traffic in the crapper. I get a little nervous messing with different formulas when my CTR is hovering around 25% + or -.

So let's say for example, I hand registered "蕁麻疹 (.) com" last month. Google says advertisers are paying .55 cents. I've made .17 cents average PPC. For a total of $1.21 with 23% CTR. I'm okay with that. The domain more than pays for itself and helps subsidize other domains that aren't quite there yet. And it seems a fair share in PPC.

Now, let's look at мама (.) com. Where Google says advertisers are paying .52 cents, just about the same as the domain above. I'm making .04 cents PPC with 12x the amount of traffic and roughly the same CTR. I should be making 4x that in PPC based on what my Japanese are making.

It's the same CPC advertisers are paying according to Google, just in a different language. How does that work? I can't be the only one here, I know I'm not.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

As someone (Olney I think) once explained, adwords advertisers are given the option of opting out of putting their ads on domains. That could explain some of the low PPC.

Moreover, you could check the volumes of advertisers/competition for each terms.. perhaps there are advertisers for this term in theory but in practice there is none/only a few and your visitors happen to click on some other, unrelated ads... Perhaps trying to visit your parked pages through a proxy could help..

But anyways, I totally understand what you're saying. Russian traffic gets zero love in terms of PPC, it's a bit ridiculous.


As far as optimizing with english keywords, I'm doing it for some of my arabic adult traffic -as suggested by touchring I believe- and it works OK. I'm optimizing with words like "chat" instead of arabic terms for blow jobs and the likes. I'm being careful though not to do it too much in case Google doesn't like it. Moreover, as you said, it's a bit self-defeating if we have "foreign" traffic and force it into viewing english ads.
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Re: DomenForum.net member looking to buy Cyrillic IDN's, Budget of 1k

Sun, May 29th, 2011 US$ 7.80 204 78 % 38.24 US$ 0.10 US$ 38.24
0.10 cents per click and the google tool is showing over $1.30 for the keyword...
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Perhaps trying to visit your parked pages through a proxy could help..
On ND you can check what adverts are coming up for specific countries by loading that country in to the domain, and then clicking the magnifying glass.

You can also specify target keywords on a per-country basis.
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