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Rubber Duck 17th May 2006 04:58 PM

So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
We have these two in Hindi but I am not sure either means very much:


xn--t2brqg.net हीरा adamant diamond
xn--11b7c0a2a.com हीरक diamond

Someone must have done much better than that?

bwhhisc 17th May 2006 05:28 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
We have 'diamonds' in Arabic- الماس
xn--mgba0b1df.net

passengerpigeon 17th May 2006 05:48 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
I have ダイアモンド.com, which seems to be the secondary form of "diamond".

thefabfive 17th May 2006 06:19 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
None over here. The thing is in many languages 'diamond' is not an IDN. Whoever owns diamant.com has got it made. I count at least 9 languages (obviously the latin based languages) where diamant means diamond. Although the total population of those nine is probably dwarfed by that of Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Arabic, and Hindi speakers.

bwhhisc 17th May 2006 08:22 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
And today came across IDNF member Touchring in this Japanese diamond mine:
xn--eckvc2a7gj5g.net ダイヤモンド ovt 39788
good one!

drbiohealth 18th May 2006 12:10 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
I have transliterated form diamond.com in hindi. This form is pretty commonly used.

Olney 18th May 2006 12:58 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
I got Pink Diamond(s) in Japanese...

touchring 18th May 2006 06:23 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
I got ダイヤモンド.net.

Rubber Duck 18th May 2006 09:36 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by touchring
I got ダイヤモンド.net.

Bill had already blown your cover, but Congratulations!

alpha 18th May 2006 10:26 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Well I'm afraid to say I haven't got any diamonds :mad:

but I do have

Ruby ルビー.net
Sapphire サファイア.net
Topaz トパーズ.net
Alexandrite アレキサンドライト.com


google trends in the following order: Diamond, Ruby, Sapphire, Topaz, alexandrite

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E3%8...o=all&date=all

take a look at the view by cities. This Google Trends is fascinating..

Rubber Duck 18th May 2006 10:44 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphamale
Well I'm afraid to say I haven't got any diamonds :mad:

but I do have

Ruby ルビー.net
Sapphire サファイア.net
Topaz トパーズ.net
Alexandrite アレキサンドライト.com

google trends in the following order: Diamond, Ruby, Sapphire, Topaz, alexandrite

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E3%8...o=all&date=all

take a look at the view by cities. This Google Trends is fascinating..

Yes, interesting. But when I introduce the English term all the Japanese terms tend to zero. Either the Japanese is not interested in Diamonds or Google Trends is total b*ll*cks!

Further to previous, the order of the searched terms seems to change the results. You get a more sensible result if you put the English term in second position. Still doesn't provide much confidence.

Olney 18th May 2006 10:51 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Maybe over the weekend I can write up some on how to use it better.

You should realize Diamonds & Precious minerals aren't bought everyday online by many. It's the info on a store that you can go to that's important.

I don't expect many searches for diamond in Japanese compared to other terms.
Luxury item domains aren't sold at all by search value...

alpha 18th May 2006 10:55 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
I think its that google trends doesnt like mixing up languages.

if you put "diamonds" last, then it returns results, but only shows Japanese in the languages tab.

something is not right.. guess thats why its a "beta"

Rubber Duck 18th May 2006 10:56 AM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olney
I don't expect many searches for diamond in Japanese compared to other terms.
Luxury item domains aren't sold at all by search value...

I entirely agree with that. Overture and Google are essential for verifying whether or not you have a primary term. Valuations are probably best done by benchmarking against the ASCII equivalent, or similar, where possilbe.

Bigtm 18th May 2006 12:46 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Please give all your diamonds to me,

as I having the best way to cut diamonds ---- AmsterdamCut.com

"it is not a IDN" Jeff would say , hehehe

jaik 18th May 2006 01:52 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck
We have these two in Hindi but I am not sure either means very much:


xn--t2brqg.net हीरा adamant diamond
xn--11b7c0a2a.com हीरक diamond

Someone must have done much better than that?

you have a हीरा ! WOW

Rubber Duck 18th May 2006 02:57 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaik
you have a हीरा ! WOW

So it that a good term? What about the other one is that worth keeping?

alpha 18th May 2006 03:01 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck
So it that a good term? What about the other one is that worth keeping?

if you reg enough names, amongst all the lumps of coal will be a diamond or two.

Rubber Duck 18th May 2006 03:15 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphamale
if you reg enough names, amongst all the lumps of coal will be a diamond or two.

Yes, but the scary bit is knowing the difference. हीरा still only get 1880 pages of Google and my records show it only getting 504. It is therefore probably that it is still too early to start sifting the wheat from the chaff with Hindi. This is one of about 100 terms that are showing less than 1000 pages in Google that I am just too scared to let go of.

Olney 18th May 2006 03:15 PM

Re: So who is dripping in Diamonds?
 
When using Google Trends currently there is a benchmark for the amount of searches that will show up.
Trends is a comparison tool.

The first term has to have a certain amount of searches.
The second term can be below that limit.

The languages don't matter too much but your first term is the primary thing you are comparing.

Luxury items fall below that scale in Japanese. Even in overture there may only be 2,000 searches a month registered looking for a mink coat. But just those 2,000 searches might bring in over a million dollars in sales.

So the way I see it diamonds in many languages might not make it as the primary term. You have to compare it against a base term.

You guys should all have base terms that you are one word in your stock that ranks by itself in Trends. You can either use a high term or a low term. I usually use Anime because it's the second highest in my collection.


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