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Old 14th July 2011, 08:56 PM
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Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

DULLES, VA, Jul 14, 2011 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- VeriSign, Inc. VRSN -1.83% , the trusted provider of Internet infrastructure services for the networked world, today announced, effective Jan. 15, 2012, an increase in registry domain name fees for .com and .net, per its agreements with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).

Verisign announced that as of Jan. 15, 2012, the registry fee for .com domain names will increase from $7.34 to $7.85 and that the registry fee for .net domain names will increase from $4.65 to $5.11.

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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

Please, somebody, explain to me the reason behind the price difference, other than "because they can".
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Old 14th July 2011, 09:41 PM
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

Rather then focus on the main issue IDN.IDN, they're already going off track thinking about how to extract some more money where they know they will have no problem doing so. Great!
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

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Please, somebody, explain to me the reason behind the price difference, other than "because they can".
Well perhaps they want to get this price increase through before they do the "negotiation" for IDN. As we are not getting new domains, then they are not simply going to be able to charge an unlocking fee without some kind of formal agreement with ICANN. It will almost be a renegotiation of their dot com contract. I am not even sure why I said "almost".
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

And I announce a decrease on the number of domains I will renew. Exactly in the same proportions.
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

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Please, somebody, explain to me the reason behind the price difference, other than "because they can".
I'll try. Although Verisign’s cost should have technnically decreased over the past fewyears, Verisign’s entertainment and lobying expenses have skyrocketed including the wining and dining of the new CEO of Icann and other expensive parties at various Icann meetings.

Being a monopoly on .com and .net strings, they have been given the exclusive right to print all the money they want at our expense.
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Well perhaps they want to get this price increase through before they do the "negotiation" for IDN. As we are not getting new domains, then they are not simply going to be able to charge an unlocking fee without some kind of formal agreement with ICANN. It will almost be a renegotiation of their dot com contract. I am not even sure why I said "almost".
I hope you are right. But I think they will still get away with the activation fees when idn.idn is launched.
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

unlocking fee/ activation fee.... the bend over is coming...

a one time fee is one thing...

but to charge $14++ per year, would be a nice well shot through the foot...
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unlocking fee/ activation fee.... the bend over is coming...

a one time fee is one thing...

but to charge $14++ per year, would be a nice well shot through the foot...
One time fee? Not a chance in the world. VeriSign envisages a future where each "domain" will have 20 or 30 .com "transliterations" customers can choose to activate for an annual consideration. I have no idea of price structure for this annual consideration, but it will be annual, that's a 100% certainty. They are in this to grow their annual revenues, a one-time fee wouldn't be the way to do that.
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

yep i think we will be paying twice what we pay now annual to renew if they are activated, i don't really seeing them giving us a break. hope i am wrong
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

I'm not really bothered to be honest. I'm in this for (a) parking revenue, (b) development, and (c) selling to end users.

For (b) and (c) the doubling of the fee isn't relevant. For (a), I will only activate on names that make it financially worthwhile to do so. Which is obviously a pita in management terms, but the bottom line is if the name ain't producing parking revenue, it won't be costing me double.

The main thing is this is actually going to happen!!
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I'm not really bothered to be honest. I'm in this for (a) parking revenue, (b) development, and (c) selling to end users.

For (b) and (c) the doubling of the fee isn't relevant. For (a), I will only activate on names that make it financially worthwhile to do so. Which is obviously a pita in management terms, but the bottom line is if the name ain't producing parking revenue, it won't be costing me double.

The main thing is this is actually going to happen!!
my exact thoughts you will only activate your developed names and ones that produce good parking revenue.
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

Then how would you know what kind of traffic you're missing on the non activated ones? I thought there's a traffic tsunami coming behind all of them idns.

You would have to activate all during the first year, no?
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

What do you guys suppose the activation fee might be in $ amount? Any thoughts?
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Then how would you know what kind of traffic you're missing on the non activated ones? I thought there's a traffic tsunami coming behind all of them idns.

You would have to activate all during the first year, no?
Trial and error obviously. If a domain is getting zero traffic as ".com", it probably won't get much on (IDN).com.

Not every domain is going to get traffic, regardless of the letters after the last "." - you can't polish a turd even if you double its size, as they say.

But yeah, trial and error, and also that will be on a name by name basis eventually .... (hence yet again I am happy at downsizing to a more manageable bunch of names a few years ago.)

But to address your point directly, for some names, yeah, the traffic will multiply up, that is for sure.

I would just activate names "gradually", starting from the ones with the most .com traffic (or income), seeing how much traffic increased, and eventually you get down to the names where activation wasn't going to get back the activation fee. Not too hard, especially if you have one of Alpha's spreadsheets!

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What do you guys suppose the activation fee might be in $ amount? Any thoughts?
If you mean annual activation fee, VeriSign will probably press for same fee as current ".com" activation fee. If you mean one-off activation fee, can't answer that as I don't believe it will happen.
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If you mean annual activation fee, VeriSign will probably press for same fee as current ".com" activation fee.
The final result is what matters anyways. Solely Idn.idn is what i would like pay for on renewals. I doubt too many idn.ascii will be kept unless it's mandatory.

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The final result is what matters anyways. Solely Idn.idn is what i would like pay for on renewals. I doubt too many idn.ascii will be kept unless it's mandatory.
Two good points:

(1) Will .com be mandatory? (VeriSign would love it to be so!)
(2) Over time, the need to keep the .com version will recede.
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Re: Verisign Announces Increase in .com/.net Domain Name Fees

yes hopefully you could activate idn.idn and deactivate the idn.ascii as traffic levels drop off over time.
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