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Old 24th August 2011, 08:31 AM
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A URL IN ANY LANGUAGE: GETTING TO KNOW THE NEXT GENERATION OF URLS
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Old 24th August 2011, 08:43 AM
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Re: A URL in any language:

That's easily one of the best "intro to IDN" articles I have seen, and pretty up-to-date as well.

And we are all relying on this being true ...

"While IDNs are in many ways a natural evolution of the Internet, most Internet users are completely unaware that they are even a possibility"

Well put!

He needs to delete this line though

"When an IDN is initially registered, it is this punycode address that is stored within the name server."

Just doesn't make any sense.

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Old 24th August 2011, 09:27 AM
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Re: A URL in any language:

I thought it was pretty good, if perhaps a bit generalized.

I disagree with this line: "Although IDNs are a long way from becoming commonplace" In what context? The Internet itself is only 20 years old. Adoption will happen at different rates in different countries. We are already seeing large increases in type-in traffic from Chinese,Japanese, Arabic and Cyrillic scripts. I don't think it will take long for IDN's to be commonplace in these countries.
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Old 24th August 2011, 09:33 AM
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Re: A URL in any language:

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I thought it was pretty good, if perhaps a bit generalized.

I disagree with this line: "Although IDNs are a long way from becoming commonplace" In what context? The Internet itself is only 20 years old. Adoption will happen at different rates in different countries. We are already seeing large increases in type-in traffic from Chinese,Japanese, Arabic and Cyrillic scripts. I don't think it will take long for IDN's to be commonplace in these countries.
In the context of this:

"While IDNs are in many ways a natural evolution of the Internet, most Internet users are completely unaware that they are even a possibility"

I totally agree. Even though Thai IDNs are 10-years old, I have still yet to see a bill-board in Bangkok with one on. Plenty of websites around for sure, but until the big boys turn-up (once .IDN(com) happens), IDNs are pretty much unknown in the general public.

Which bodes extremely well for traffic 2012 and beyond ..........

Note he said "most Internet users". I think thats certainly true.

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Old 24th August 2011, 09:41 AM
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Re: A URL in any language:

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He needs to delete this line though

"When an IDN is initially registered, it is this punycode address that is stored within the name server."

Just doesn't make any sense.
Actually, that seems pretty correct to me. The DNS is not designed to recognised Unicode so the A Name will be Punycode.
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Old 24th August 2011, 09:57 AM
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Actually, that seems pretty correct to me. The DNS is not designed to recognised Unicode so the A Name will be Punycode.
Yeah, I guess its ok, just sort of clumsy writing. Its not just "initially", its "all the time". But yeah, good article. We need more of them.

And yeah, even I did realize there isn't any Unicode in A-labels
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Re: A URL in any language:

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Re: A URL in any language:

The author has a nice blog too : globalbydesign.com
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Re: A URL in any language:

Nice article. Finally someone took the time to investigate before writing. Unlike the rest of the world he even noticed that it's not possible to register рayрal.com.

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This is usually intentional. With Internet Explorer, Chrome, and Firefox, the IDN is generally displayed in punycode format unless the language preference of the browser matches the language of the IDN.
Is this true for Chrome and IE? As for Firefox it clearly isn't although it sounds like a pretty good idea.
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Re: A URL in any language:

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Is this true for Chrome and IE? As for Firefox it clearly isn't although it sounds like a pretty good idea.
True for Chrome anyway. This article: http://www.chromium.org/developers/d...-google-chrome has the details. It also has a link to the Unicode Consortium CLDR database, which Chrome uses to determine which characters are valid in which languages.

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Old 25th August 2011, 02:28 PM
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Re: A URL in any language:

latest version of IE works with language preferences too.

FF has the stupid whitelist.
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Old 27th August 2011, 03:29 PM
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latest version of IE works with language preferences too.

FF has the stupid whitelist.
So true. When will it change? Its still f**** up 20% of IDN queries worlwide. Its not small beans.
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