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Old 1st October 2011, 10:29 PM
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What do you think about idn ws ending ??
Would you buy them ??
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What do you think about idn ws ending ??
Would you buy them ??

Only with the great keywords -
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Re: ws......???

No way would I buy any IDNs in .ws, it is an absolutely crappy extension. ASCII .ws domains don't do well so why would IDNs in .ws?
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When noboody will accept the Dollar for anything else, they may well be worthy of consideration.
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Re: ws......???

they have been bought and dropped ii guess it ma be time for that cycle again :-)
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I would urge you to develop a couple and test them out see what you can do with them, especially if you can develop a couple yourself unique content ect. JMO

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I would urge you to develop a couple and test them out see what you can do with them, especially if you can develop a couple yourself unique content ect. JMO
And as Alan said....go for the GREAT keywords. The .ws registry is selling their brand by multi-level marketing so it could be interesting to see how that plays out over the next few years to the masses, not "domainers". Given that .com is pretty much taken, this may be your only affordable alternative if you want Tier 1 name. If you run a list of top terms, ホテル hotel, スポーツ sports, 保険 insurance , お金 money etc you will find that most .ws are taken...many by natives so there is some underlying value which may appreciate over time.

It would be interesting to see how a top keyword in .ws, combined with native language content and links to other native language sites will get you in the google page rank. Worth the try...and might be a good experiment....unless one of the dinosaurs here wants to give you their .com for cheap.

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Re: ws......???

Agree that for extrememly top keywords, they may have some value especially for SEO purposes. In Thailand, a few people had some success using .ws to rank well but they tend not to stick around too long. Most of the keywords used in Thailand with the extension .ws are usually keywords banned by the government so that could also explain their short life span. I don't promote IDN.tv either but in certain cases they are still better than .ws. However, none of these have much chance to go IDN right of the dot.
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However, none of these have much chance to go IDN right of the dot.
I think that is the key. The .ws and .tv registries have not (as far as I know) announced any plans to apply for their names in other scripts (in the case of .ws, I'm not even sure what it would be). This is in contrast to .asia, which has discussed doing this. [IDN].ws might be useful for SEO, but it is not something you would want to put in an advertisement.

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The .ws and .tv registries have not (as far as I know) announced any plans to apply for their names in other scripts (in the case of .ws, I'm not even sure what it would be). Avtal
Verisign is going to give .com and .net holders the option of having 1, or both (idn.com and/or idn.idn(com).

Just wondering if some/many will choose to keep their brand as idn.com (english .com).

Another reality....places like China and India are going to need a LOT more websites that most countries just based on population parameters alone. Secondary extensions such as .ws for top keywords may provide a good alternative and a niche for specualtors.

If you are willing to risk $ 37.50 to register a TOP .ws for 5 years I don't think you will lose any money and you might even find a few buyers at low to mediium xxx and get a decent ROI. Definately a better return on the cash than I might predict you would do with those same US Dollars stashed away in a cookie jar. :p

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Re: ws......???

I have 2:

北京.ws

россия.ws
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I have 2:

北京.ws

россия.ws

Wow ~ great domains


If you like the keywords and make renewal for US$9 per domain a year is not a problem for you, why don't you have some of them.

I used to have hold 200+ .ws IDNs for 2~3 years, but drop 3/5 of them within the past 2 years. (my pocket was not deep enough)

If you are very very smart and don't want to waste any penny on .ws - that's also fine -
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Re: ws......???

I've also got just 2 .ws IDNs.

недвижимость.ws ( Real Estate - Russian )
ホテル.ws ( Hotels - Japanese )
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Re: ws......???

Most of the IDNforums 'big IDNs investor' member here got plenty of very nice keyword's great IDNs in hand, most because that they involve IDNs much early than the late comer

I still believe that weak extension but nice-keyword domain name is better than the dot com with 'very weak keyword' domain names - if the new investor do not have enough money to purchase nice IDNs
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Most of the IDNforums 'big IDNs investor' member here got plenty of very nice keyword's great IDNs in hand, most because that they involve IDNs much early than the late comer

I still believe that weak extension but nice-keyword domain name is better than the dot com with 'very weak keyword' domain names - if the new investor do not have enough money to purchase nice IDNs
I am not sure that anyone not having enough money to meet the paultry prices in the current market can realistically be termed an Investor.
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Re: ws......???

I had a few, but dropped all and kept only one.

סקס.ws Hebrew (Sex)

Since there is no change they will be fully IDN, I did see any reason to keep them.
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Re: ws......???

I did something shameful today !!
I registered my third IDN.ws

отели.ws ( which I hope means hotels )

This is definitely one for development, rather than parking.

Now excuse me, as I go and wash myself with bleach to try abd get the .ws stench off me !!
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Re: ws......???

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I used to have hold 200+ .ws IDNs for 2~3 years, but drop 3/5 of them within the past 2 years. (my pocket was not deep enough)

If you are very very smart and don't want to waste any penny on .ws - that's also fine -
Fact: you have wasted at least $2000 on .ws domains alone. You could buy some very nice .com with that money, even now. Unfortunately, you are still making the same mistake by holding the rest of your .ws.

Fact you have to face: you cannot develop all those domains. Even you choose to develop some of them, "thanks to" the great keywords, they will never rank on page 1 of any search engines. For those keywords, you have to spend millions of dollars to make them rank well. If you have that money, will you use it to develop these domains?

Fact you will face: these premium .ws domains will never earn your registration money back (not counting the time you spend on them!). They will not rank well. No one will type them. If they will not do any good to you, who will buy them? Remember, as a domainer, if no one will buy the domain, you do not buy it, either. Domainer turning developer is a plain tragedy.

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Re: ws......???

Here's a fact of my own ...

I have one .ws (badly) developed and it pays for itself and then some ...

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Fact: you have wasted at least $2000 on .ws domains alone. You could buy some very nice .com with that money, even now. Unfortunately, you are still making the same mistake by holding the rest of your .ws.

Fact you have to face: you cannot develop all those domains. Even you choose to develop some of them, "thanks to" the great keywords, they will never rank on page 1 of any search engines. For those keywords, you have to spend millions of dollars to make them rank well. If you have that money, will you use it to develop these domains?

Fact you will face: these premium .ws domains will never earn your registration money back (not counting the time you spend on them!). They will not rank well. No one will type them. If they will not do any good to you, who will buy them? Remember, as a domainer, if no one will buy the domain, you do not buy it, either. Domainer turning developer is a plain tragedy.

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Here's a fact of my own ...

I have one .ws (badly) developed and it pays for itself and then some ...
This is exactly how people waste their money. They heard one successful story and thought they could do the same and jumped all in...

Without the exact domain name, the time you have spent on developing it and the money you make from it, your fact is only useful for misleading people.
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