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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

http://www.icann.org/en/announcement...22nov11-en.htm

ICANN Implementation Notice - Version 3.0 of IDN Guidelines

22 November 2011
Following the ICANN Board's acceptance at the October 2011 meeting in Dakar, Senegal, ICANN is today providing notice of implementation for version 3.0 of the Guidelines for Implementation of Internationalized Domain Names. The IDN Guidelines are a list of general standards that many top-level domain registries deploying IDNs are required to follow based on the Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA) protocol standard from the IETF.

The Guidelines document was developed by IDN Guidelines Revision Working Group (comprised of ccTLD and gTLD registry representatives with IDN experience supported by ICANN staff). The new version modifies the current Version 2.2 to reflect the IDNABIS revision ("IDNA2008 protocol") of the initial IDNA protocol ("IDNA2003"). ICANN previously published a draft version of the guidelines for public comment (see http://www.icann.org/en/public-comme...27jul11-en.htm). The ICANN Board of Directors endorsed version 3.0 of the IDN Guidelines during their meeting on 28 October 2011. Registries offering IDN registrations should begin transitioning to version 3.0 of the IDN Guidelines.

The Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA) protocol is the technical standard for the implementation of IDNs for TLD registries, registrars and software developers that make IDNs available for their customers. The IDNA protocol references and further detail about the 2008 revision can be found here: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/rfcs.htm
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

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The trademark interests tried and failed to convince the Executive branch and the Legislative branch to stop the new gTLD program. But they haven't tried the Judicial branch yet.
They would need some sort of legal case to go that route. I can't see one.

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They would need some sort of legal case to go that route. I can't see one.
To be honest, it is going to be a brave judge that assumes juristiction.

Sure more than zero, as less than zero is mathematical nonsense, and nothing in life is absolutely certain.

But now considerably less than 1%.
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

Arrogance or ignorance ?
http://domainincite.com/anas-modest-...m-or-well-sue/
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Arrogance or ignorance ?
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

Did they actually bother to read the Guide Book?

Do they comprehend the term Non-Starter?
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

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Arrogance or ignorance ?
Doesn't really matter; the only thing that matters is whether they have the money to hire lawyers. And I believe they do.

After making these threats, the ANA will look foolish if they don't file a lawsuit. So I predict they will. The real questions, then, are timing (I predict they'll file within a week), and whether a judge will agree to suspend the new gTLD program until the case can be heard (unpredictable).

Should be interesting (if you find tedious legal proceedings interesting).

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P.S. Of course, ICANN has money to hire lawyers too. But not as much money as they will have after they collect all of those $185K application fees. So it is in ANA's interest to block the process before ICANN can collect the fees.

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Doesn't really matter; the only thing that matters is whether they have the money to hire lawyers. And I believe they do.

After making these threats, the ANA will look foolish if they don't file a lawsuit. So I predict they will. The real questions, then, are timing (I predict they'll file within a week), and whether a judge will agree to suspend the new gTLD program until the case can be heard (unpredictable).

Should be interesting (if you find tedious legal proceedings interesting).

Avtal

P.S. Of course, ICANN has money to hire lawyers too. But not as much money as they will have after they collect all of those $185K application fees. So it is in ANA's interest to block the process before ICANN can collect the fees.
I rather thought this bit was superflous:

"if they don't file a lawsuit."

Tomorrow might be good, otherwise they risk ICANN revealing that most of their supporters have already applied.
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

ANA can sue in many places at once.
California, NY, DC, etc..

California is necessary because ICANN is based in LA.
But they could try for a federal court in LA, NY, etc..as well.

But to get a judge to sign an injunction to stop the gtld application process from starting
is a real push.

Just letting applications start is not likely to be considered 'injurious'.

Ah....but stopping a particular gtld later in 2012 that will have legs.

.XXX shows that path quite well.


dot music is likely to have 2 to many applications.
the maelstrom in NY and LA to get that gtld settled should be a fun and expensive attorney mud fight.
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

http://www.thedomains.com/2012/01/10...take-the-risk/
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

Yes, that will put Apple and Coca Cola in a right tail spin.

These guys are idiots.

Do they not realise that for most prospective applicants, not only is this only a fraction of the total costs, but it is chump change?
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

dot BMW.

case closed.
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Re: Chance of new gTLD delay “above zero”. What do you think?

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After making these threats, the ANA will look foolish if they don't file a lawsuit. So I predict they will. The real questions, then, are timing (I predict they'll file within a week), and whether a judge will agree to suspend the new gTLD program until the case can be heard (unpredictable).
It's been a week, and no lawsuit yet. So my prediction was wrong.

The longer ANA delays filing a lawsuit, the harder it will be to convince a judge that the matter is urgent.

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