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Old 21st December 2011, 02:32 PM
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公司 and 网络

Bearing in mind that both google translate and my chinese is imperfect, I believe that http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2011-12-20/10326538420.shtml says that CNNIC will be applying for dot 公司 and dot 网络 under the new gTLD programme.

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Re: 公司 and 网络

Thanks for sharing.

I wonder if Verisign will reconsider their stance on this.
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I wonder if Verisign will reconsider their stance on this.
You mean their decision to apply for something that sounds like "com", instead of something that means "business"?

On the one hand, the "com" sound-alike seems worth less than "business", in Chinese anyway. On the other hand, best not to get into a fight with CNNIC. Also, the "com" sound is easier to defend from rival applicants under ICANN's sound-alike rules.

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not necess applying for the string themselves but at least block CNNIC.

What does ".net" mean if not network ?
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A quite possible outcome that has been brewing for some time now:

1) .公司 goes to CNNIC.
2) .Whatever-sounds-like-com-in-Chinese goes to Verisign.
3) IDN.COM owners get to activate .Whatever-sounds-like-com-in-Chinese

Both CNNIC and Verisign claim victory.

Those holding IDN.com get sidelined as the popularity contest goes to .公司

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On the other hand, best not to get into a fight with CNNIC. Also, the "com" sound is easier to defend from rival applicants under ICANN's sound-alike rules.

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Mr. Pessimistic, why do you say "better not mess with CNNIC" ? Verisign has the possibility of blocking CNNIC's application without having to go to auction. So It's not even a question of money. It's just business common sense.

And Blocking can be based on aural, visual or meaning. Hence my comment re : what does dot net mean if not Network ?? Drew was right, they kissed goodbye part of their IP
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Don't honestly give honestly give a shit.

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Re: 公司 and 网络

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...why do you say "better not mess with CNNIC" ?...
because history has shown us how the Chinese negotiate in matters like this.. "give us what we want or we will split the root"
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because history has shown us how the Chinese negotiate in matters like this.. "give us what we want or we will split the root"
OK! Give them what the hell they want!

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because history has shown us how the Chinese negotiate in matters like this.. "give us what we want or we will split the root"
They have already split the root, as .公司 resolves in China to .公司.cn

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not necess applying for the string themselves but at least block CNNIC. What does ".net" mean if not network ?
I thought it was short for "internet" before i started polluting my mind on domain forums. :p
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not necess applying for the string themselves but at least block CNNIC.

What does ".net" mean if not network ?
Good point, squirrel, about .net. I was focused on .com, whose meaning is ambiguous (commerce? commercial?), and which anyway overlaps with the meaning of .biz.

I think Verisign's sound-alike strategy will work pretty well with phonetic alphabets, but not so well with Chinese.

As for why Verisign won't try to block CNNIC's proposed gTLDs: Verisign doesn't want to lose their lucrative contract for .com/.net, and so will not irritate major players for minor commercial advantage.

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Re: 公司 and 网络

Assuming single character gTLDs are allowed .网
always made a lot of sense to me for a .net sound-a-like equivalent.
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