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JamesD 20th April 2012 12:54 PM

Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
I've come across a couple of Japanese .com names that whois shows as available and never previously reg'd, even though the .org and .net are taken.

In both cases whois returns "no match found" but neither name can be registered...tried at 3 registrars.

Are some names reserved?

gammascalper 20th April 2012 01:15 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
words in simplified and traditional Chinese and Japanese kanji that are close to them block each other from registration. It's the so-called variant effect.

JamesD 20th April 2012 01:51 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
Thanks - so they will never be available to reg?

sunsei21 20th April 2012 02:09 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
if the other one drops i guess they both become available. but if one is registered both are registered

JamesD 20th April 2012 02:53 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
Ok, thanks.

Ryu 21st April 2012 03:31 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesD (Bericht 195616)
I've come across a couple of Japanese .com names that whois shows as available and never previously reg'd, even though the .org and .net are taken.

In both cases whois returns "no match found" but neither name can be registered...tried at 3 registrars.

Like 不動産.com (real estate) and 投資.com (investment)? It's a frigging fact that 2 of the biggest Japanese names are variant blocked.

JamesD 21st April 2012 07:17 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
One of the ones I was refering to was 学校.com (school)...if it looks too good to be true, etc.

squirrel 21st April 2012 07:26 PM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
學校.com blocks 学校.com. As others pointed, this situation is referred to as a "variant block"

http://whois.domaintools.com/xn--n9so80a.com

There are a few cases of both variants being registered to different owners (such as 技術 and 技术) but it's rare and likely occured in the early days -testbed perhaps(?)- when Verisign variant blocking system was not implemented yet. Needless to say if one of the two domains drop it would not be available for registration.

Drewbert 23rd April 2012 02:14 AM

Re: Are some words / phrases reserved?
 
The bizarre thing about the current system is someone like Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation can either have the simplified version of their real Chinese company name, or the trad version, but they can't have both.

The system is complicated and occasionally ways can be found that will allow you to get around the blocks during a drop/registration. Doesn't always work, but still... :)


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