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Old 29th May 2012, 01:45 AM
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Huge drop

Looks like TDC did a huge cleanup on their portfolio, thousands of their secondary names dropped last night.

All the better ones gone pretty quick obviously, heres a few that are still available:
广告牌.net - xn--4rr70vssq.net Billboard (S.Chinese)
月.net - xn--7ov.net Month (S.Chinese)
职业.net - xn--vhqq73j.net Career/Profession (S.Chinese)
ネットワーク.net - xn--pckwbps6o0c.net Network? (Japanese)
畢業.net - xn--q6vz8w.net Graduate/Graduation (T.Chinese)
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Old 29th May 2012, 01:53 AM
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Thanks - I took 职业.net
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Old 29th May 2012, 02:24 AM
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A sign of frustration that I am sure we are all experiencing.
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Old 29th May 2012, 02:57 AM
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Some more:
怎样.net - how - S.Chinese
空間.net - space - T.Chinese
個人.net - personal - T.Chinese
科學.net - science - T.Chinese
足.net - foot - S.Chinese
電池.net - battery - T.Chinese
官.net - official/officier/organ - S.Chinese
皮肤.net - Skin - S.Chinese
先生.net - Mr. - S.Chinese
業務.net - profession/business - T.Chinese
可愛.net - cute/adorable - T.Chinese
ウェブ.net - web - JP
サイト.net - site - JP
リサイクルトナー.net - toner recycling - JP
会計士.net - accountant - JP
倉庫.net - Warehouse/storehouse - JP
乳母車.com - baby carriage / pram - jp
минитракторы.com - tractors - RU
フィルター.com - filter - JP
マイクロバブル.com - microbubbles - JP
畫像.com - portrait - JP
肌着.com - underwear/singlet/chemise - JP
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Old 29th May 2012, 03:35 AM
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took this, thanks
足.net - foot
科學.net - science

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Re: Huge drop

Congrats -
职业.net & 科學.net really was great names
(I was too late)

I took some domains from the list.

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A sign of frustration that I am sure we are all experiencing.
you will prob. see more portfolios trimming .nets and other ext. as this drags on. i have always been surprised at how many .nets that are registered. very few.coms make reg fees. you know the .nets are hard to look at on your month end parking statement, and everytime you go to renew them.
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Old 29th May 2012, 10:05 AM
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Re: Huge drop

Thank you. I registered ネットワーク.net (Network)

It works with the extension.
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you will prob. see more portfolios trimming .nets and other ext. as this drags on. i have always been surprised at how many .nets that are registered. very few.coms make reg fees. you know the .nets are hard to look at on your month end parking statement, and everytime you go to renew them.
Noticed that on a good few of these the .biz is taken by natives...and on some the .tv is taken too. Same with .org too.
Down the road the .biz and .tv guys could be good resale targets for the nets especially if they put up sites on their 4th string tlds.

怎样.biz open
空間.biz Taken
個人.biz Taken
科學.biz Taken
足.biz Taken, .tv Taken
電池.biz Taken
官.biz open
皮肤.biz open
先生.biz Taken, .tv Taken
業務.biz Taken, .tv Taken
可愛.biz open
ウェブ.biz Taken, .tv Taken
サイト.biz Taken
リサイクルトナー.biz Taken
会計士.biz Taken
倉庫.biz Taken
乳母車.biz open

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Re: Huge drop

I really don't mind picking up great .nets in the big languages. Hard to go wrong. Amazing that so many go for peanuts -- or reg fee lol.
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Re: Huge drop

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Noticed that on a good few of these the .biz is taken by natives...and on some the .tv is taken too. Same with .org too.
Down the road the .biz and .tv guys could be good resale targets for the nets especially if they put up sites on their 4th string tlds.

怎样.biz open
空間.biz Taken
個人.biz Taken
科學.biz Taken
足.biz Taken, .tv Taken
電池.biz Taken
官.biz open
皮肤.biz open
先生.biz Taken, .tv Taken
業務.biz Taken, .tv Taken
可愛.biz open
ウェブ.biz Taken, .tv Taken
サイト.biz Taken
リサイクルトナー.biz Taken
会計士.biz Taken
倉庫.biz Taken
乳母車.biz open
I hear what you are saying, but at the same time I don't. Sure if/when this all takes off many .nets, .tvs and even some .biz's will have value but to me that will be icing on the cake. And from a risk standpoint I don't see the reason to hold great numbers of these secondary extensions.

The baseball.tv in Japanese is actually a drop of mine. Granted somewhat of an oversight, but at the same time I went to renew it twice and kept saying to myself...why? Surely a great name, but is such diversification at this point logical at a cost 3x of my dot coms? Perhaps even a little illogical...

Just my 2c. And of course it depends on your portfolio and when you entered this maddening game!
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That was huge indeed. And not only in quantity.
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Re: Huge drop

I agree, but also willing to take more risk at this stage of the game with Chinese names in .net or geos in .net given the size of the market and population.


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I hear what you are saying, but at the same time I don't. Sure if/when this all takes off many .nets, .tvs and even some .biz's will have value but to me that will be icing on the cake. And from a risk standpoint I don't see the reason to hold great numbers of these secondary extensions.

The baseball.tv in Japanese is actually a drop of mine. Granted somewhat of an oversight, but at the same time I went to renew it twice and kept saying to myself...why? Surely a great name, but is such diversification at this point logical at a cost 3x of my dot coms? Perhaps even a little illogical...

Just my 2c. And of course it depends on your portfolio and when you entered this maddening game!

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Re: Huge drop

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That was huge indeed. And not only in quantity
Yep it was.

We've been intimately familiar with TDCs portfolio for years since the brokering I got involved with back in 2008

Anyone who has taken a close look at their portfolio will know it looks like it was a machine regged job; in fact during the time the 2008 deal was being put together, we had their non-latin portfolio assessed, in fact a number of native members here kindly assisted with that exercise. What it highlighted was the sizable number of massive gems they had littered with TMs, random phrases, secondary terms.. thousands of crappy domains. Clearly they deployed the age old skill of fishing with dynamite on that day in November 2000

After having assessed the drop, it's clear that unlike their random registrations of 2000, the drop that just took place was targeted. It was mostly .net and the coms that went appear to be all the crap, clearly they had some native language skills assistance this time.

What I do find weird is the timing, we are days away from knowing what gTLDs are coming, and while we all have doubts on the value of .nets, it is possible that some language .nets will have their own new gTLD, and as we know, the top keywords in .net do have value. In fact TDC know this, because as part of that brokering, a .net was involved for an eye-watering figure; yet knowing all this, they dump a massive number of top tier .nets, without even an attempt at selling them.

What's even more annoying, is that some of these .nets now are variant blocked, so can't even be re-registered.

finally, congrats to the usual suspects for picking through the drops, a few nice terms changed hands.

stats: of the non-latin names (Japanese, Russian, Korean, Chinese [simple & traditional]) I count 5k names dropped out of the 13k, of those drops, only 200 have so far been re-registered

if anyone here would like a list of the drops, all translated and scored with the usual metrics - if you think you can convince me into putting a couple of hours effort into formatting it for you, then drop me a PM, but like I said you'll have to be creative with your convincing.

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What I do find weird is the timing, we are days away from knowing what gTLDs are coming, and while we all have doubts on the value of .nets, it is possible that some language .nets will have their own new gTLD, and as we know, the top keywords in .net do have value. In fact TDC know this, because as part of that brokering, a .net was involved for an eye-watering figure; yet knowing all this, they dump a massive number of top tier .nets, without even an attempt at selling them.
They might be speculating (or even knowing?) that .net is not part of Verisign's transliteration plans.

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variant blocked
That was the fun part. And the huge opportunity. If I had seen this earlier I wouldn't have gone to work - even at the risk of getting sacked. Still you wouldn't believe what I hand regged when I came home.
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Re: Huge drop

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They might be speculating (or even knowing?) that .net is not part of Verisign's transliteration plans.
No, it's not that, they still have ~500 .nets in various languages, I'm guessing these have been kept because they produce revenue, because the cull wasn't based purely on keyword quality as we know.

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That was the fun part. And the huge opportunity. If I had seen this earlier I wouldn't have gone to work - even at the risk of getting sacked. Still you wouldn't believe what I hand regged when I came home.
true, those drops would have free'd up some previously blocked variants - I didn't check into that in any real detail, but feel free to PM me your bragging

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Re: Huge drop

I'm confused, particularly about the variant-blocking part of this.

TDC has renewed 價格.com, and has just dropped the .net.

Now that they dropped the .net I was able to nab the Simplified variant: 价格.net, which had previously been blocked.

But the simplified version, 價格.net, is still available.

It seems that .net no longer has the variant blocking, which it previously had?
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Can someone PM me the May 28 IDN.net drop list for this? Thanks. 8)

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yes please would like it too...
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Now that they dropped the .net I was able to nab the Simplified variant: 价格.net, which had previously been blocked.
Well done!

Did you do it manually or with help from a script?
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