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PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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PIR, the not-for-profit operator of the .ORG domain, announced today it has applied for the creation and management of four internationalized domain names (IDNs) recognized as .ORG in non-Latin-based scripts and for the new gTLD’s of .Ngo and Ong

“As part of its application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), PIR submitted for the generic top-level domains (gTLDs) that translate “organization,” “org” or “structured organization” into Devanagari, Cyrillic and Chinese-simplified scripts.”

“The four applications- one in Devanagari, one in Cyrillic, and two in simplified Chinese- were filed as part of ICANN’s global Internet expansion initiative which will go into effect as early as 2013.”
props to Thedomains

come on Verisign, PIR have shown you the way...

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Verisign has said since May that they'd primarily apply for translit of dot COMs (no mention of dot NET) and the CEO gave as an example that people in China and India could register .com in their language, meaning probably that devanagari has been applied for.

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Sorry we're still in May. The exact day is May 15th, at the JP Morgan conference
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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and two in simplified Chinese
Why two in Chinese?
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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Why two in Chinese?
because they think there's 2 ways to translit .org I assume
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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because they think there's 2 ways to translit .org I assume
Fair enough.

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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Verisign has said since May that they'd primarily apply for translit of dot COMs (no mention of dot NET) and the CEO gave as an example that people in China and India could register .com in their language, meaning probably that devanagari has been applied for.
Thanks Squirrel, very good point. Can you provide the link for the May statement please?
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Verisign has said since May that they'd primarily apply for translit of dot COMs (no mention of dot NET)
I recall .nets mentioned in their more recent announcement.
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

so in summary. we still don't know jack.
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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Thanks Squirrel, very good point. Can you provide the link for the May statement please?
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http://jpmorgan.metameetings.com/web...hp?ticker=VRSN

it's a webcast. The statement of interest is around the 10th or 11th minute
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I recall .nets mentioned in their more recent announcement.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to a statement by VRSN CEO during a conference organized by JP Morgan on May 15th
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I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to a statement by VRSN CEO during a conference organized by JP Morgan on May 15th
Yeah I get you now.
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Heres another link same story:

http://betanews.com/newswire/2012/05...web-addresses/
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Gotta admit I was hoping Korean would have been on this list (:
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PIR, the not-for-profit operator of the .ORG domain, announced today it has applied for the creation and management of four internationalized domain names (IDNs) recognized as .ORG in non-Latin-based scripts and for the new gTLD’s of .Ngo and Ong

“As part of its application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), PIR submitted for the generic top-level domains (gTLDs) that translate “organization,” “org” or “structured organization” into Devanagari, Cyrillic and Chinese-simplified scripts.”

“The four applications- one in Devanagari, one in Cyrillic, and two in simplified Chinese- were filed as part of ICANN’s global Internet expansion initiative which will go into effect as early as 2013.”

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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sure

http://jpmorgan.metameetings.com/web...hp?ticker=VRSN

it's a webcast. The statement of interest is around the 10th or 11th minute
Very much appreciate your help Squirrel!

Based on Verisign CEO's statement ``...primarily applied for the transliterations of .coms in various languages``and the example about India and China, I agree Devanagri (essentially Hindi) is probably a done deal. There could possibly be 1-4 translits of .net. So it looks like Hindi + the previously announced 6 languages are now confirmed out of the total 12 iGTLDs applied.

Now with Hindi in, I would think that Thai stands a good chance as the 8th language and is most probably in as well. Any other guesses from forum members for other languages (Tamil, Greek and etc)? Or it could be the 8 .com translits mentioned + (Chinese, Japanese, Arabic and Cyrillic translits) in .net?

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Cyrillic .org coming up! Sweet!
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Hooray! But the usual questions:

Will owner of idn.org get idn.org-in-idn? (I think PIR said so, at one point).
Which strings, exactly, did they apply for?
Will the two simplified Chinese TLDs be aliased?

Progress, anyway.

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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Im glad PIR is at least starting to show some initiative. Definately a huge leap in the right direction but im still wondering as to why they left out the arabic script when they were so anxious to go for it in 2010.
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

Theres no arabic.org 2nd level domains yet, so it was probably less of a hurry than cyrillic

Also, theorically if PIR was not to alias existing registrants, i would think that we could have rhe 'designated objector' object on grounds of confusion by filing unfavorable comments
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Re: PIR break cover with their IDN gTLD plans for .org translits

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Also, theorically if PIR was not to alias existing registrants, i would think that we could have rhe 'designated objector' object on grounds of confusion by filing unfavorable comments
Good point.

But in order to comment (positively or negatively), we need to know PIR's plans (and Verisign's for that matter). So the question is, are their aliasing plans going to be part of their gTLD application, or something announced outside of that process?

Anyway, here is the schedule for releasing the public portions of the application, from section 1.1.2.2 of the Applicant Guide Book

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ICANN will post the public portions of all applications
considered complete and ready for evaluation within two
weeks of the close of the application submission period.
Certain questions relate to internal processes or
information: applicant responses to these questions will not
be posted. Each question is labeled in the application form
as to whether the information will be posted. See posting
designations for the full set of questions in the attachment
to Module 2.
The list of application questions is here. I haven't tried looking at these to see if any are relevant to aliasing.

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