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Old 29th June 2012, 08:35 PM
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String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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There is no word in the Arabic language called (كوم) COM. If the ICANN allows this word, that means the organization will create a now word without getting the approval from the Arabic Language Academy in Cairo, Damascus, and Bagdad.

VeriSign has no right introducing now word in the Arabic language without taking the approval from the Arabic Language Academy.

The ICANN should reject the application since this is can be considered as violation to the Arabic language

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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Is there some cultural or religious taboo about introducing a new word into Arabic? I'm asking this as a serious question. Surely there are new words (mostly transliterations) being introduced all the time, or are these regarded as offensive as well?
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Old 29th June 2012, 09:07 PM
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

I think there is an official procedure from local linguists in majority of languages/countries when introducing a new word to be officially added to the language but i am not sure what it has to do with the transliteration of a global TLD. I think the fact there is nothing else in the language that means anything but the .com extension is a positive indicator when the application will be evaluated.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Yeah I guess this can kind of be read in reverse as a point in favour of the application, as it doesn't encroach on any existing terms that others might lay claim to. I also agree that in clearly identifying كوم as a transliteration in their application, the criticism that it is a 'word' requiring official approval is not valid.

I just hope ICANN are as good at turning negative criticism into positive support as much as we are!
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Old 29th June 2012, 09:56 PM
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

I believe that France has a general policy for new vocabulary in gov/education/ going through academy review.

with Cairo/ Baghdad under new managemet...consensus is unlikely.
Reaching out for urdu and farsi is very very unlikely.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Very interesting.

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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

well its in this one

http://translate.google.com/#ar|en|%D9%83%D9%88%D9%85
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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exactly.

anyone wondering why icann charge a substantial fee for anyone to formally object to these strings, now knows why. It's to filter out the noise and halfwits that we are seeing right now.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

+1 to bumblebee man.

I am sure they have a committee that polices the "purity" of the language and I am sure nobody cares about them.

We have an organisation like that in my homeland and they try to introduce phrases that are made from "pure" words for technology related words etc. and everybody laughs at them.

Sometimes there is no way around translits. For example for "bus" they tried a phrase that exactly means "vehicle with many seats" and it is as long in the original language also. Who is going to say that in real life?
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Arabic, as the language of the Koran, is considered sacred, and not subject to change, because the message of the Koran is final. So it follows therefore, that the Arabic language itself can not be changed.

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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Coincidentally this commercial started showing up in the US:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzoz...feature=relmfu
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

One of his mates has cottoned onto this...

https://gtldcomment.icann.org/commen...backdetails/15
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Fundamentalism always comes hand in hand with ignorance, in this case ignorance about the new IDN.IDN process itself.
Of course the new string is confusingly similar to .com, it's supposed to be, that's the whole point. It's a transliteration.
Either this guy as some self interest involved in this or he just missed a good opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Amazing how people feel the need to present themselves as specialist in whatever area before dishing out the most ridiculous arguments...but then again he admits to manage and operate a ccTLD, maybe that explains a lot.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

Are transliterations even allowed in Arabic? The commenter is right, there is no such word in Arabic, and as Verisign does not have the authority to create Arabic words, this attempt may be doomed from the start.

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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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Are transliterations even allowed in Arabic? The commenter is right, there is no such word in Arabic, and as Verisign does not have the authority to create Arabic words, this attempt may be doomed from the start.
With technology blazing at the pace it is going and new innovations and businesses hitting the web, I think there are lots of transliterations in not only Arabic, but almost all languages. What do Arabs do for words for twitter, facebook, blackberry, linkedin, Versace, Gucci, etc etc.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

No one "owns" Arabic, or transliteration approvals.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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Arabic, as the language of the Koran, is considered sacred, and not subject to change, because the message of the Koran is final. So it follows therefore, that the Arabic language itself can not be changed.
Yes, but the language of the Koran,is not the vernacular today, nor is it widely used in either the media or legal documentation.

Furthermore, we are not talking about a word, but the transliteration of a string which has already been widely adopted.....
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Are transliterations even allowed in Arabic? The commenter is right, there is no such word in Arabic, and as Verisign does not have the authority to create Arabic words, this attempt may be doomed from the start.
....... Hence, intellectual bollucks.
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Re: String Confusion Objection Ground: there is no word in Arabic called كوم

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No one "owns" Arabic, or transliteration approvals.
Yes, the one enduring quality of Arabic power, is that nobody has it!
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