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Old 17th November 2012, 02:10 PM
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In Other News: Twinkie Price Skyrockets !

The Heck with Domains time to Hoard Twinkies

Single Twinkies on Ebay for 5k and up.



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Re: In Other News: Twinkie Price Skyrockets !

I watch late night import U.S cop shows, I know this is the staple diet for every morbidly obese american cop. There's no way this brand is disappearing; it'll resurface in another form.
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I watch late night import U.S cop shows, I know this is the staple diet for every morbidly obese american cop. There's no way this brand is disappearing; it'll resurface in another form.
All of their brands, logos, recipes, equipment, bakery equipment, delivery trucks etc will be sold at the bankrupcy auction.
Someone may buy it up in full, allowing them to operate without the BS union hassles and sometimes costly stipulations and contracts.

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I watch late night import U.S cop shows, I know this is the staple diet for every morbidly obese american cop. There's no way this brand is disappearing; it'll resurface in another form.
American cops run on Dunkin Donuts
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American cops run on Dunkin Donuts
Actually all Americans run on dunkin donuts. Thats why we are all fat asses. Except me

I just want to know how Hostess (a beloved junk food) goes bankrupt in a sugar loving nation. It should (in theory) be a top 50 business.
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I just want to know how Hostess (a beloved junk food) goes bankrupt in a sugar loving nation. It should (in theory) be a top 50 business.
They have averaged about 2.4 Billion in Sales the last 3 years....but read below:
Primary cost is the Unions unwillingness to compromise (involving 372 seperate Collective Bargaining agreements), coupled with $100 million plus in pensions and legacy benefits. Just read the highlighted paragraph below and you get the idea.

"The Debtors believe that three main factors are responsible for their recent economic troubles: (a) high legacy costs; (b) inflexible labor work rules and structures; and (c) unsustainable debt levels that prohibit the Debtors from adapting their business to current competitive conditions thereby increasing profitability. As a consequence, the Debtors do not have a competitive cost structure and cannot achieve viability on a long-term sustainable basis in their industry.

Crippling Legacy Costs. As stated above, the Debtors participate in 40 Multiemployer Plans. The Multiemployer Plans are structured to place the financial burdens of all of the retirees under the plans upon the remaining companies in the plans that have active union employees. Over the last several decades, the number of companies supporting the Multiemployer Plans has shrunk significantly as a result of the voluntary and involuntary withdrawal of many employers and the fact that virtually no new employers join multiemployer plans today. This significantly increases the burden on the companies, such as the Debtors, that remain. The Debtors' annual cash pension contributions associated with the Multiemployer Plans is approximately $103 million. Additionally, the Debtors have annual retiree medical obligations of approximately $1.4 million.

Inflexible and Uncompetitive Collective Bargaining Agreements. As stated above, the Debtors are party to 372 separate collective bargaining agreements (collectively, the "CBAs"). The CBAs collectively mandate maintenance of 80 different health and welfare benefit plans, the sheer number of which impose excessive administrative and cost burdens on the Debtors. The CBAs mandate increases in wages and medical and other benefits for the fiscal year ending June 2, 2012 that total an additional $31 million. In addition, the CBAs contain a variety of different work rules that hamstring operations and make the CBAs uncompetitive as well as extremely difficult to administer. For example, the Debtors often provide both bread and cake products to an individual customer location. The existing work rules require that, on many routes, separate trucks must deliver the bread and cake products to that single customer location. The work rules also require that, in some bakeries and distribution centers, a separate individual must be used to load the trucks (the Debtors' competitors have drivers who load their own trucks) and separate people must load either bread or cake onto a truck. Finally, work rules require that, in some instances even when a route representative is already visiting a customer location, that representative may not move product within that location; rather, a separate employee must visit the customer location to move product from the back room to the shelf. Often, this so-called "pull-up" employee cannot move both bread and cake and, thus, two "pull-up" employees must make this same trip. This multiplies the number of individuals necessary to deliver product to customers and doubles the costs associated with trucks and fuel. Finally, the work rules prevent the Debtors from implementing alternative distribution systems into new, currently unserved markets.

Unsustainable Debt Levels. As set forth above, the Debtors have several tranches of secured debt totaling approximately $860 million. While the impact of this debt burden was somewhat ameliorated in the near term by the carefully constructed payment-in-kind features, it is incompatible with achieving a competitive cost structure, funding sorely needed capital improvements and long-term viability.

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Re: In Other News: Twinkie Price Skyrockets !

If you want to sink your teeth into the details: whos-to-blame-for-the-hostess-bankruptcy-wall-street-unions-or-carbs (theatlantic.com) which includes a link to this article from earlier this year: hostess-twinkies-bankrupt (fortune magazine).

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