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Namedrive screwin us ?

Come on... I have a few keywords that pay $1-$30 a click according to overture. However I get 1c-5c. Sure google is getting around this much since they compete with overture but where is our percentage going? Namedrive?
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Where does the traffic come from? Is Namedrive showing native ads?
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

I think some of us are in danger of expecting Japanese Businesses to pay premium rates for clicks from the US.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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I think some of us are in danger of expecting Japanese Businesses to pay premium rates for clicks from the US.
why would we type in a japanese word if we speak english? I mean when japanese people type it in. I know its a very very little percentage but still.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Does anyone knows if ND shows Japanese ads? If no, then it's quite impossible to expect high PPC or CTR.

We'll just have push Ed to resolve this.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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why would we type in a japanese word if we speak english? I mean when japanese people type it in. I know its a very very little percentage but still.
Well for my portfolio, nearly all traffic and clicks are from North America. Some may be Japanese, but I suspect nearly all are speculators. The real value in this is when Japanese Businesses are using IDN to present adverts in Japanese to local Japanese customers. As far as I am aware that is not really happening yet.
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Does anyone knows if ND shows Japanese ads? If no, then it's quite impossible to expect high PPC or CTR.

We'll just have push Ed to resolve this.
Wouldn't they use google? I would assume that if you view it from within Japan you'd see native ads auto generated. That is what I've been trying to state .
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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Wouldn't they use google? I would assume that if you view it from within Japan you'd see native ads auto generated. That is what I've been trying to state .
I think this probably has been resolved but we would need someone based in Japane to confirm, as I believe it is all done on IP location.

This still doesn't get around the problem that most of the traffic at the moment to Japanese IDN is phoney. By contrast I think we are seeing real traffic in German Russian and to some extent Arabic.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Hey,

When I get hits from Asia on my NameDrive parked pages, the revenue's always pretty low, but then I have a mix of .coms and .co.uks.

If you're worried, I'd suggest giving NameDrive an eMail. I've always found them to be a very responsive company.

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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Afternic provides consistent ~$.30 clicks on Russian traffic, from Russia. Why, I don't know. You can't fine tune any settings, the pages are ugly, they are not targeted, the domain title and name shows up in punycode, and there is a big ad for Afternic on top. But people still click, and even if they click less, the income generated is much more than namedrive on a month to month basis.

I think Namedrive needs to do some more work getting a parking reseller other than google to serve ads. Afternic lets you choose between DS, Fabulous, and a few others. That's the kind of thing we need on ND.

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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

30 cents a click? Serving gambling ads? Has anyone else used Afternic?
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Keywords are important.

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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

They are probably pocketing the cash
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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Jeff, it really wouldn't make any sense to start trying rip off their Client base before it is established. The problem of directing real traffic to real advertising has not yet been resolved. We have been promised this for next week for Japanese. I think we should wait to see how that pans out against traffic that actually comes from Japan before we start accusing everyone of fraud. Yes, we are all getting a p*ss*ed off with the situation, but I don't think attacking ND in this way is really helping at this time.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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I have a few keywords that pay $1-$30 a click according to overture
Build your own Adsense page. Look at my sig...

However keep in mind that $30 and above clicks are a myth. I have been using Google Adsense on several sites for more than 3 years. Some of my sites have pages that trigger top paying keywords and I have never had a $30 click! Maybe one day...

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Wrong! Google is. To cover clickfraud settlement costs and keep stock investors happy enough time to let all managment staff cash out on all stock options they own. More info here: http://www.fuckedgoogle.com
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

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Build your own Adsense page. Look at my sig...

However keep in mind that $30 and above clicks are a myth. I have been using Google Adsense on several sites for more than 3 years. Some of my sites have pages that trigger top paying keywords and I have never had a $30 click! Maybe one day...

I think everyone knows this, but how is it possible to find time to build an adsense page for hundreds or even thousands of domains?
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

a) I really don't think "Namedrive are pocketing the income" is the most likely explanation. I use them to park ASCII names, and they deliver good income. There are many more likely explanations for low PPC values.
b) I did earn $12 from a single click at Trafficz yesterday, and given that I share my income with them, and then Trafficz have to share it upstream as well, sounds like that was probably a $40 click.
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Build your own Adsense page. Look at my sig...

However keep in mind that $30 and above clicks are a myth. I have been using Google Adsense on several sites for more than 3 years. Some of my sites have pages that trigger top paying keywords and I have never had a $30 click! Maybe one day...
of course you don't.... google/yahoo takes a significant cut.

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Build your own Adsense page. Look at my sig...

However keep in mind that $30 and above clicks are a myth. I have been using Google Adsense on several sites for more than 3 years. Some of my sites have pages that trigger top paying keywords and I have never had a $30 click! Maybe one day...



Wrong! Google is. To cover clickfraud settlement costs and keep stock investors happy enough time to let all managment staff cash out on all stock options they own. More info here: http://www.fuckedgoogle.com
dude i meant namedrive's share before it is dispensed to us
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I think everyone knows this, but how is it possible to find time to build an adsense page for hundreds or even thousands of domains?
A little example: http://bobesponja.be. It took me half an hour to build it. 0$ for domain (be promotion). Open source template. Wikipedia and other se content. If you build one everyday you'll have 365 on one year that I am sure will earn much more than thousands of parked domains.
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Re: Namedrive screwin us ?

Hi guys,

To be honest, this is not the first time we've been accused of ripping you guys off on this forum. I think it is indicative of the IDN situation currently that you don't see this on other boards where the majority of the readers have non-IDN domains.
I can't explain the Google permutations or how Afternic manage to get their 30 cent russian clicks, but the one thing in this debate I can assure you of (again) is that we're not ripping you off. We are paying everyone out at the same percentage and the last 3 days have in fact been our highest system-wide PPC payout in our history.
Now, I appreciate this doesn't help you with low-paid clicks on your IDN domains, but I remember back in November when I said our focus was for now on the markets we currently perform well in (i.e. Europe and the US), I was accused of being very short-sighted as IDNs are the future. As I see it, this is the current problem. Google have only just last week (and this is our good news) started showing us really targeted Asian and Russian results. Last week. I know that Yahoo are well up on the game in the IDN market but Google are taking their first tentative steps now and we can only hope for good things in the market soon.
As I mentioned in another post, this is our exciting news. We are hoping this week to finally be able to provide you with FULL IDN coverage: keywords, related searches, searches on the page etc. In addition to being the only company to display the domain correctly for all character sets. I've seen the early workings and they're looking very promising.

I know this has been a frustrating wait for you guys to get full coverage. However, our IDN earnings per day amount to about 0.01% of our total earnings, so it's been a difficult project to push through.
I can't promise huge clicks, but I can promise that someone is finally trying to cater to all your IDN needs.

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