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Old 28th May 2006, 02:44 AM
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.公司 or .com ?

I have been following IDN for only a few weeks. One sticking issue which i still can't figure out is the difference between .公司 and .com.

Many people have asked if ".公司" will be mapped directly to ".com". If yes, does it mean that all IDN.com will automatically own IDN.公司 ?

However, if that is the case, then why are some registrar still offering the .公司 registration service? Assumingly if i registers IDN.公司, what if another person already owns IDN.com?

Wouldnt that be conflicting? When ICANN passes the law that .公司 will be mapped to.com? Then does it mean that my IDN.公司 has to be returned to the so called "lawful owner"?

Also, I see some registrar offering .中国 with a bracket beside it such as .中国(.cn), does this mean that i get both IDN.中国 and IDN.cn when i register?
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Re: .公司 or .com ?

Hello zibin, welcome to the forum!

There are quite a few threads discussing .公司 extensively, you can find them in the IDN news and Chinese IDN sections.
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Re: .公司 or .com ?

Thanks Giant!

Upon reading them, I m still scrathing my head.

Is it right to say that there is no clear cut answer as no rules has been institutionalized?

Whether IDN.com owners will get IDN.公司. or not is unsure as ICANN (or any authoritative body) has not decided on this issue. My question is, if ICANN hasn't decided on whether to give .公司 to the IDN.com owner, then why are some registrar already selling .公司. Wouldn't there be an ownership issue if ICANN chooses to grant IDN.公司 to the original IDN.com owner because .公司 has already been sold to someone else?
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Re: .公司 or .com ?

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Thanks Giant!

Upon reading them, I m still scrathing my head.

Is it right to say that there is no clear cut answer as no rules has been institutionalized?

Whether IDN.com owners will get IDN.公司. or not is unsure as ICANN (or any authoritative body) has not decided on this issue. My question is, if ICANN hasn't decided on whether to give .公司 to the IDN.com owner, then why are some registrar already selling .公司. Wouldn't there be an ownership issue if ICANN chooses to grant IDN.公司 to the original IDN.com owner because .公司 has already been sold to someone else?
.公司 can only be resolved using a plug-in.

Search for IDN.IDN -- lots of threads regarding this.

Edit: you're right touchring -- I forgot that IN China you don't need the plug-in any more.
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Re: .公司 or .com ?

IDN.com owners will not get IDN.公司, as China has started diverting IDN.公司 to IDN.公司.cn - hundreds of Chinese ISPs have been instructed sometime in March to divert IDN.公司 to IDN.公司.cn and IDN.中国 to IDN.cn, IDN.网络 to IDN.网络.cn.

ICANN has to come out with another .com equivalent in Chinese.

How this will affect our domain investment decisions, although people are taking sides, i can say that no one really knows for sure, especially the long term effects.

More information is needed, especially after IE7 launches, to observe how the Chinese Internet market is responding to 中文.中国.

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Thanks Giant!

Upon reading them, I m still scrathing my head.

Is it right to say that there is no clear cut answer as no rules has been institutionalized?

Whether IDN.com owners will get IDN.公司. or not is unsure as ICANN (or any authoritative body) has not decided on this issue. My question is, if ICANN hasn't decided on whether to give .公司 to the IDN.com owner, then why are some registrar already selling .公司. Wouldn't there be an ownership issue if ICANN chooses to grant IDN.公司 to the original IDN.com owner because .公司 has already been sold to someone else?
No. You could start some parallel internet tomorrow and sell your own dot coms. ICANN couldn't stop you. They wouldn't be worth anything because they would only resolve on your internet and nobody is interested. If China set up its own internet that might be a different story, but it would in no way affect what would and wouldn't resolve on the World Wide Web.
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Re: .公司 or .com ?

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.公司 can only be resolved using a plug-in.

Search for IDN.IDN -- lots of threads regarding this.

Edit: you're right touchring -- I forgot that IN China you don't need the plug-in any more.

No, no plugin required. But the user must use firefox or IE7. CNNIC's own plugin is a joke, my PC almost hung after i installed it.

btw, someone just voted the max. range for the poll.

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No, no plugin required. But the user must use firefox or IE7. CNNIC's own plugin is a joke, my PC almost hung after i installed it.
Well it isn't really their pluggin is it? It is this awesome technology that is being fronted by some outfit from Singapore. That is why China is back cooperating with ICANN, because despite the problems the alternatives are dire!
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Well it isn't really their pluggin is it? It is this awesome technology that is being fronted by some outfit from Singapore. That is why China is back cooperating with ICANN, because despite the problems the alternatives are dire!

With ISP diversion, they do not need the plugin.

Of cos, with that infrastructure in place, it might also be possible to do crazy stuff like diverting all chinese.com to chinese.cn, which some of us here speculated much earlier on, but we now know is no true, at least for now.
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