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ICANN has told the first Arab Internet Governance Forum that more domain names need to be registered using local domain names in Arabic, says a report in the United Arab Emirates’ The Nation.

Icann regards Arabic domain names as an important step to helping the region fully profit from the internet, promote a better online economy, build a strong, networked community, and add to the overall knowledge base of a country.

"You can create spaces on the internet that have unique cultural rules," said Fadi Chehade, the president and chief executive of Icann.

"That can be very attractive to countries in this part of the world."

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...-from-internet
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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

Icann is examining 116 applications for domain names, most of which come from China. Only 15 are in Arabic script, including the Arabic equivalent of ".net".

The .net was never applied for?
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Icann is examining 116 applications for domain names, most of which come from China. Only 15 are in Arabic script, including the Arabic equivalent of ".net".

The .net was never applied for?
Not by Verisign. International Domain Registry Pty. Ltd. applied for شبكة.
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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

When did i miss this? So has their .net been accepted? What about verisign applying for it? What happens to holders of arabic nets.

Someone elaborate on this for me please.
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When did i miss this? So has their .net been accepted? What about verisign applying for it?
Someone elaborate on this for me please.
Verisign didn't apply for it (stupid Verisign) and afaIk they didn't object either.

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What happens to holders of arabic nets.
Nothing.
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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

Nothing?

Hmm that is something. Any more information about this anyone has?

So they received approval for their net then.
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So they received approval for their net then.
No there has not been any new TLD approved yet.

The objection period closes in a week, March 13th. Theorically Verisign still has time to file an objection, however, as so many people noted before, it seems Verisign doesn't care if .company and .network are applied by others - Actually I think Pat Kane even said they would not object, referring specifically to 公司

GAC has not filed its advice either, which should happen shortly after Beijing, but I don't see any reason for them to shoot down شبكة

Follow the status of all applications here : https://gtldresult.icann.org/applica...tus/viewstatus
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It just says to me VeriSign is fully focused on .com going forward. They know they are going to lose .net one day anyway, its just being used as leverage for keeping .com forever and a day.
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It just says to me VeriSign is fully focused on .com going forward.
It actually shows they are not as smart as we would like them to be. They applied for Hindi.net and some meaningless pseudo translit of .net in Chinese.
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It actually shows they are not as smart as we would like them to be. They applied for Hindi.net and some meaningless pseudo translit of .net in Chinese.
I never accused them of being smart. The .com application cock-ups proved that if prove was necessary.

But they certainly don't care about .net long-term. Lots of people here were predicting VeriSign would apply for .net to match every .com. Never going to happen. .net is a bargaining chip to keep .com. They had to apply for a couple to keep up the pretence of being interested in .net.
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Nothing?
Hmm that is something. Any more information about this anyone has?
So they received approval for their net then.
Verisign only applied for .com in Japanese, Arabic, Russian, Hebrew and Thai.

The .net applications may follow in subsequent rounds but you are looking probably 2015 soonest.

Maybe the .com holders will be "pricey" and many will move to develop on idn.net.

Develop a GREAT Arabic site and visitors will come, even to a dot net like:

http://www.aljazeera.net/

they also own the .com which is their english version.

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Verisign only applied for .com in Japanese, Arabic, Russian, Hebrew and Thai.
Didn't verisign apply for hindi & korean (.com) as well?
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Yep. Bill also forgot Chinese, but that one is forgivable.

And cyrillic encompasses Ukrainian as well as Russian.
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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

So if they dont object within these last days they lost arabic net and this other company gets it.

Which should mean that we should all drop our nets should it happen.

Then when this companies .net goes live we should reg what we can of that.

Very surprising to me that another company applied for it as i was waiting on the next round of application for the net but now i hear that another company got it in this round.

Yes Verisign is fucking stupid i have to say. Not just fucking stupid i mean retardation at its finest right now. Especially with the coms they regged and all the mistakes the first time.
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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

Verisign is not concerned with words that mean 'Network'. For .net in arabic they will want something that sounds like .net when you read it.

They did the same for their .com applications in other languages, they were not concerned with words for .company, they simply applied for short TLDs that sounded close to .com

Even if International Domain Registry Pty. Ltd. had not applied for شبكة., Verisign would not have applied for it - never
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So if they dont object within these last days they lost arabic net and this other company gets it.
Well even if Verisign did apply, they would have applied for the translit, not .شبكة.

What Verisign could have done is sought to block IDR's application. But given that Verisign didn't put in an application for the translit, that doesn't really give them much of a case. If anything, IDR might be in a position to block Verisign should Verisign later seek to apply for the translit.

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Re: ICANN pushes for more Arabic IDN usage

Thanks for the clarification so they registered for network and not net.

Makes much more sense now.

To me i would agree then they can have their network and its understandable they dont care.
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To me i would agree then they can have their network and its understandable they dont care.
Well they should have cared I reckon. I think it was a mistake for Verisign not to put in for the translit.
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But they certainly don't care about .net long-term. Lots of people here were predicting VeriSign would apply for .net to match every .com. Never going to happen. .net is a bargaining chip to keep .com. They had to apply for a couple to keep up the pretence of being interested in .net.
Might well be. But still they could have gone for .net where it makes more sense ... like in Arabic.
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But they certainly don't care about .net long-term.
Why is that? Last time they didn't even need to bid for the contract renewal - they were just awarded it. Money in the bank as far as I can tell.
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