.see vs .china vs IDN.com vs IDN.cn

[welkin]

I mean of course just IDN gTLDs. There will soon be a big rebranding of sorts, with companies transforming their domain names to their native language. If there's any time to steal a piece of the .com pie, this is it. I'm just not sure how possible it is.

Originally Posted by 123

not sure how much money you would have to pay to convince a large company to use a money burning extension in advertising. and then to really make a difference you would have to get many on board not just a few.

a weak extension will dramatically reduce advertising ROI, it just sucks as the o.co or nissan.com cases show.

i think it would be too costly make an extension wildly popular that way.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by welkin

Chinese type in pinyin (Roman alphabet) which are then converted into characters. But when you type .com in pinyin, the result is also just .com. Perhaps this will change to be a shortcut for .点看 in the future, who knows.

Well there is no advantage then.

Why then have so many members here been so interested in aliasing for? Given that Verisign has gone the translit route, it won't make any difference, because it appears the translits are meaningless for branding and have no improved usability.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Jay

Well there is no advantage then.

Why then have so many members here been so interested in aliasing for? Given that Verisign has gone the translit route, it won't make any difference, because it appears the translits are meaningless for branding and have no improved usability.

It has always been the second level which is most relevant.

But to be relevant it needs to be widely adopted.

This hasn't happened......Yet.

[domainguru]

Originally Posted by Jay

Well there is no advantage then.

Why then have so many members here been so interested in aliasing for? Given that Verisign has gone the translit route, it won't make any difference, because it appears the translits are meaningless for branding and have no improved usability.

I'm interested in aliasing because I own Thai domains not Chinese domains.

On a scale of 1 to 100, I rate the importance of aliasing in Thailand around a 99. Hence why I've sold no Thai names to date.

If grandfathering doesn't happen, let's just say I won't be wasting another 10 years on IDNs because IDNs will lose all relevance in Thailand.

Other markets will vary.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by domainguru

I'm interested in aliasing because I own Thai domains not Chinese domains.

On a scale of 1 to 100, I rate the importance of aliasing in Thailand around a 99. Hence why I've sold no Thai names to date.

If grandfathering doesn't happen, let's just say I won't be wasting another 10 years on IDNs because IDNs will lose all relevance in Thailand.

Other markets will vary.

Arabic ditto. And more so due to Right to Left issue.a

Sure IDN.com gets loads of traffic but it is still a busted flush.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by domainguru

Other markets will vary.

Okay, well it would be interesting to see what members think about this. New poll: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3352...get-users.html

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Jay

Okay, well it would be interesting to see what members think about this. New poll: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3352...get-users.html

can we have a poll on whether you consider yourself a compulsive pollster?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

can we have a poll on whether you consider yourself a compulsive pollster?

Not required, as the answer is self-evident.

[IDN.IDN]

Originally Posted by Jay

Well there is no advantage then.

Why then have so many members here been so interested in aliasing for? Given that Verisign has gone the translit route, it won't make any difference, because it appears the translits are meaningless for branding and have no improved usability.

Yes, in terms of usability, .com has no disadvantage compared to IDN TLDs. It is very easy to type .com. Most people type English letters to get Chinese. Using one of the most popular Chinese input systems as an example (others are probably similar). For clickSee, you can type dk to get a list of hints, where clickSee would be the first (not now, but in the future that will happen), and you select 1 to finish the process. For other Chinese TLDs, it is similar. For com, you can type c and you will get com as the first one on the list, and then you select 1, or you can simply type com and just hit return, you also get com, whichever way you prefer. In terms of typing in the domain name, com is actually faster. But I do not know how much that will affect their adoptions though.

[blastfromthepast]

Aliasing .ком will make all .com Russian domains 'real'. That much is clear.

[blastfromthepast]

.WS has been the winner so far with Chinese domains.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

.WS has been the winner so far with Chinese domains.

So what did they win exactly?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

.WS has been the winner so far with Chinese domains.

How come?

[Wot]

Originally Posted by dreoios

IDN.china and IDN.com will be the likely winners. .ClickSee (IDN version of .com VeriSign applied for) will have some difficulties since people will not connect that with .com. It will have to start as a completely new TLD and compete with other new ones.

There is a possibility that VeriSign will separate .com and .ClickSee following what cnnic has done for .cn and .china.

[Doughnut]

I own car.com (Chinese equivalent of .com), think my opinion would be bias in this case. PS new to the forum, I don't bite