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Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

Are Russian .org names worth a lot more than .net names these days? I've always thought .net was worth more than .org, but am confused as a .net name didn't even get a single bid at $5, where the .org sold for $xxx, both on this forum.

Russian .net or .org, what do you say is worth more for the exact same word?
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

.org worth more than .net

net similiar to "no" in russian. who wants a domain with word.NO ?

i think the .com and the .org will get transliterations while the .net won't.

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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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net similiar to "no" in russian. who wants a domain with word.NO ?
In Soviet Russia domains with the word.NO want you!!
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

org will be орг
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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i thought .net wouldn't get one. maybe that was an other language.
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

Does .org get traffic because I can assure you .net does!
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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Does .org get traffic because I can assure you .net does!
I have a couple Russian .nets that receive a decent amount of traffic (x,xxx). No experience with .org.
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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i thought .net wouldn't get one. maybe that was an other language.
glow was making a little joke. Google translate will help you see it.

Verisign has applied for .ком (.com) and PIR has applied for .орг (.org). Verisign chose not to apply for the Russian version of .net, probably for the reasons already given.

Are there any theories on why Russian .nets get traffic? Are the users going to the trouble to add .net in Latin letters to the end of Russian words? Do some of the browsers automatically add the .net in some cases? Or are Russian .nets just popular with bots?

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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

Yeah, but Merriam Webster lists COM as abbreviation for Comedy or Comic.

Ultimately, though does any of this really matter. Verisign will come up with a Cyrillic solution for do net, but yes it is now in the slow lane.

But is anyone going to offer any stats on Dot Org Traffic?
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

I have a few good ones like dating and erotica and the traffic is nothing to write home about. Less than 1 unique a day for most of them. I would think that for cyrillic.orgs which have their ascii.org counterpart developed, the traffic should be more interesting.
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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is anyone going to offer any stats on Dot Org Traffic?
http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3344...s-traffic.html

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glow was making a little joke. Google translate will help you see it.

Verisign has applied for .ком (.com) and PIR has applied for .орг (.org). Verisign chose not to apply for the Russian version of .net, probably for the reasons already given.

Are there any theories on why Russian .nets get traffic? Are the users going to the trouble to add .net in Latin letters to the end of Russian words? Do some of the browsers automatically add the .net in some cases? Or are Russian .nets just popular with bots?

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Traffic to .net (and I believe to the majority of .com ) comes from developed sites with latin addresses. There is no culture of types-ins in Russia (for obvious reasons).
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Traffic to .net (and I believe to the majority of .com ) comes from developed sites with latin addresses. There is no culture of types-ins in Russia (for obvious reasons).
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

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Are there any theories on why Russian .nets get traffic? Are the users going to the trouble to add .net in Latin letters to the end of Russian words? Do some of the browsers automatically add the .net in some cases? Or are Russian .nets just popular with bots?
i am not sure if i recall correctly but weren't there browsers that would autocomplete .com if that weren't available .net and then .org?

i have seen some minimal type-in on .coms with very long tails, either these were typos or bots or genuine type-ins but extremely limited.

since 2 my worders don't seem to get much traffic even if they have a high exact count and 1 worders seem to get far more with much less searches i would say a lot could be autocomplete traffic but i don't have much russian names so i can only guess what is going on.

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Traffic to .net (and I believe to the majority of .com ) comes from developed sites with latin addresses. There is no culture of types-ins in Russia (for obvious reasons).
that is always a possibility when there is a lot of traffic for unknown reasons. if you look at the expired names from dynadot you will see many russian get a at least a few hits a month or at least 1-2 visits/month. infact i would say from the expiring names there are more russian names that get at least some traffic than the ones who don't get any at all.

and they don't sound like spillover type names to me, so some traffic does occur without´ascii.

i don't know how much is autocomplete but i can imagine that if you have a very popular word, it is just curious human nature that makes you combine and try .com with cyrillics even when it is just boredom.

then there may be people who are inexperienced or distracted and forget that cyricills don't get used for domains and try them.

maybe that does happen with .net as well. i find it always puzzling to see .nets get traffic

but i believe the true genuine and intentional type-in is still very limited on most IDNs.

even in ascii i believe that true type-ins are scarce and happen only on a very limited number of names in significant proportions (i don't have much data to back that up)

for what i have heard domain parking revenue is 10% real type-ins and 90% typosquatting, tm squatting, misdirected traffic, extension confusion etc..
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That was the exact auction I was referring to. The .org sold for $305 while the .net didn't even get a $5 bid: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3227...D-russian.html
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Re: Russian .net or .org - which is worth more?

Obviously, you have to have name that curious people are likely to typein. One that comes to mind right away is a country name.
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That was the exact auction I was referring to. The .org sold for $305 while the .net didn't even get a $5 bid
Well that auction was a lot about revenue. The domain made $5 in the previous month. So projecting that, without taking into account potential growth from a aliasing bump and other factors, that is $60 per year. A $300 sale is equivalent to five years projected revenue, which is a steal really.

Also you can't look past the fact that, unlike Cyrillic.net, Cyrillic.org is being aliased and reads well in native characters.
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Well that auction was a lot about revenue. The domain made $5 in the previous month. So projecting that, without taking into account potential growth from a aliasing bump and other factors, that is $60 per year. A $300 sale is equivalent to five years projected revenue, which is a steal really.

Also you can't look past the fact that, unlike Cyrillic.net, Cyrillic.org is being aliased and reads well in native characters.
$5 is not statistically significant.

Sometimes we get five times that in a single click and then nothing for weeks.

I have been looking past Dot Org for ten years. Not one registration!
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