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芸能.com - entertainment - 9k on Snapnames

A good Snapnames auction just finished with 芸能.com (entertainment in Japanese) going for US$9001. It was a 2000 reg that dropped the other day.
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Re: 芸能.com - entertainment - 9k on Snapnames



lots of bidders ?
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lots of bidders ?
8 bidders. Three or four went hard near the end and pushed up the price very quickly.

There hasn't been many big auctions of late, so it's good to see some action again.
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Yeah, pretty crazy auction. Some fierce competition
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8 bidders. Three or four went hard near the end and pushed up the price very quickly.

There hasn't been many big auctions of late, so it's good to see some action again.
Really only two went hard.
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Re: 芸能.com - entertainment - 9k on Snapnames

i think one could invest 9k better than that. Not that entertainment is a bad term, but 9k in the current market is extremely high. from a ROI perspective i think there are better opportunities.

not sure why people went crazy on that term.
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not sure why people went crazy on that term.
Because it was on Snapnames. It's the same with ascii names. For some psycological deep reason, people spend a lot more on drop auctions then they would do when buying directly from someone. Maybe the "the seller is ripping me" trauma?
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i think one could invest 9k better than that. Not that entertainment is a bad term, but 9k in the current market is extremely high. from a ROI perspective i think there are better opportunities.

not sure why people went crazy on that term.

Agreed. TBH I was extremely surprised it went for that. Based on my research that term is not worth that kind of bread. But maybe the winner knows something I don't?
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Agreed. TBH I was extremely surprised it went for that. Based on my research that term is not worth that kind of bread. But maybe the winner knows something I don't?
Maybe they already have a buyer lined up? Maybe they know something we don't. I wouldn't pay anywhere near that for the domain, but I say that about many many domain sales both ascii and idn.
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Re: 芸能.com - entertainment - 9k on Snapnames

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Agreed. TBH I was extremely surprised it went for that. Based on my research that term is not worth that kind of bread. But maybe the winner knows something I don't
a similiar term in german (Unterhaltung.de) is now for sale for 30k Euro. That is end-user pricing and an established market.

correction: the search volume is only a fraction of the japanese term

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It's the same with ascii names. For some psycological deep reason, people spend a lot more on drop auctions then they would do when buying directly from someone. Maybe the "the seller is ripping me" trauma?
maybe it is the bidder is beating me trauma?
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i think one could invest 9k better than that. Not that entertainment is a bad term, but 9k in the current market is extremely high. from a ROI perspective i think there are better opportunities.

not sure why people went crazy on that term.
I think it's all about looking at future potential. A term like that has huge development potential for an entertainment website, which do big business in Japan. The owner just needs to spike the interest of a big Japanese media group and she'll be laughing.

This is someone who owns domains like 银行.com (bank), 法律 (law) and 笔记本电脑.com (laptop), so going ahead of the market to get these sorts of terms could prove to be well worth it in the long run. If I had the loose change I'd probably do the same.
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I think it's all about looking at future potential. A term like that has huge development potential for an entertainment website, which do big business in Japan. The owner just needs to spike the interest of a big Japanese media group and she'll be laughing.

This is someone who owns domains like 银行.com (bank), 法律 (law) and 笔记本电脑.com (laptop), so going ahead of the market to get these sorts of terms could prove to be well worth it in the long run. If I had the loose change I'd probably do the same.
I think what 123 is trying to say is that for that amount of cash there are some tremendous deals out there. A few domains I've personally seen sold in the last few months for considerably less most would agree have greater reach, value and overall potential.

That said the domain is great, the winning bidder is a sophisticated, well informed investor and therefore it is careless being overly critical of the investment.
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Re: 芸能.com - entertainment - 9k on Snapnames

Like this one but a little to much for me idn's regged in early 2000's should go for more.
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... idn's regged in early 2000's should go for more.
Can you explain why please?
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I think what 123 is trying to say is that for that amount of cash there are some tremendous deals out there. A few domains I've personally seen sold in the last few months for considerably less most would agree have greater reach, value and overall potential.

That said the domain is great, the winning bidder is a sophisticated, well informed investor and therefore it is careless being overly critical of the investment.
What i meant is that in the end domaining is about making money, so usually you have limited amounts of capital and want to get the highest ROI that is possible.

I think that you could still invest that amount of $$$ and get more value for your money. If i had 10k to spend i wouldn't blow it on a single name like this i think. But i have limited amounts of capital.

I don't mean to critisize the buyer, maybe it will turn out to be an excellent investment. I just think that i would never spend that much on such a name.

Think about what 9k could get you here on the forum.

The buyer seems to be well funded and very aggressive, if you have a lot of capital to spend this may make more sense as you want to allocate as much money as possible.

or maybe there is an other reason why this one is so valuable.

the psychology of drop auctions is interesting though. I remember at least two cases in the past 2 years where a decent name sold for xxxx on a drop. One year later the name drops and gets sold for xxxx again. i think people enjoy the thrill of drop auctions and buy on high expectations and when they own the name and nothing happens they lose interest and move on to the next drop.

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Think about what 9k could get you here on the forum.
9K worth of junk.
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9K worth of junk.
True.
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Think about what 9k could get you here on the forum.
Well... I would be really interested to see what $9k could get here. It would be great to see a super premium name up for auction here, as it's been a while.
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If i had 10k to spend i wouldn't blow it on a single name like this i think. But i have limited amounts of capital.
If I only had 10k to spend I wouldn't put it on just one name either - too much risk. If I had 100k to play with, I might. It depends on your budget like you say, and also on your strategy.

As an example, there were a couple of others that dropped from the same owner on the same day, also regged in 2000. I managed to pick up one of these (TV guide) and it didn't cost me $9k! It won't fetch $xx,xxx on the market in the coming years, but it will pay itself off before too long in parking revenue.

I'd personally prefer to own 100 of these than just one like the 9k one (if that was my entire budget). But there are some here who wouldn't agree ("what happens when auto-complete goes", etc etc?). If I had a bigger budget I would definitely go after the more premium names.

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