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Old 20th May 2014, 04:08 PM
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name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

We have a chinese idn (simplified chinese) registered with name.com on 28 May 2013, expiring 28 May 2015 (yes 2015), but got deleted recently.

We enquired with the registar (name.com) and got this reply:

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Verisign identified that the domain name did not comply with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy. This policy is available at http://www.verisigninc.com/en_US/pro...html?loc=en_US. Verisign experienced a temporary issue with its IDN Character Variant validation rules, which allowed certain variants of existing IDNs to be registered. This issue has since been corrected and all variants that were not in compliance with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy have been deleted.

At this time the domain is no longer available for registration as it should not have been listed as available originally. Name.com had no say in this matter, and no action was taken by Name.com. We are very sorry about the inconvenience this issue has caused. Please let us know if we can be of any additional assistance. Name.com would be happy to provide further assistance.

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We see there are many names with BOTH (or various) variants registered, for many years, anyone has similar expierence and how to handle?
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Old 20th May 2014, 04:47 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

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We have a chinese idn (simplified chinese) registered with name.com on 28 May 2013, expiring 28 May 2015 (yes 2015), but got deleted recently.

We enquired with the registar (name.com) and got this reply:

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Verisign identified that the domain name did not comply with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy. This policy is available at http://www.verisigninc.com/en_US/pro...html?loc=en_US. Verisign experienced a temporary issue with its IDN Character Variant validation rules, which allowed certain variants of existing IDNs to be registered. This issue has since been corrected and all variants that were not in compliance with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy have been deleted.

At this time the domain is no longer available for registration as it should not have been listed as available originally. Name.com had no say in this matter, and no action was taken by Name.com. We are very sorry about the inconvenience this issue has caused. Please let us know if we can be of any additional assistance. Name.com would be happy to provide further assistance.

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We see there are many names with BOTH (or various) variants registered, for many years, anyone has similar expierence and how to handle?
You're not the only one. Squirrel and others on this forum had the same problem. You could try to fight it, but a difficult battle for sir
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Old 20th May 2014, 05:20 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

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We have a chinese idn (simplified chinese) registered with name.com on 28 May 2013, expiring 28 May 2015 (yes 2015), but got deleted recently.

We enquired with the registar (name.com) and got this reply:

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Verisign identified that the domain name did not comply with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy. This policy is available at http://www.verisigninc.com/en_US/pro...html?loc=en_US. Verisign experienced a temporary issue with its IDN Character Variant validation rules, which allowed certain variants of existing IDNs to be registered. This issue has since been corrected and all variants that were not in compliance with Verisign’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Character Variant policy have been deleted.

At this time the domain is no longer available for registration as it should not have been listed as available originally. Name.com had no say in this matter, and no action was taken by Name.com. We are very sorry about the inconvenience this issue has caused. Please let us know if we can be of any additional assistance. Name.com would be happy to provide further assistance.

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We see there are many names with BOTH (or various) variants registered, for many years, anyone has similar expierence and how to handle?
that's extremely scary. Did it go go to pending delete first or did it just disappear from your account?

I think you can't do much, you can try to fight Verisign but i doubt the "big guys" would be much impressed.
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Old 20th May 2014, 05:30 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

did they send you an email they were deleting it or did you notice it was gone?
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Old 20th May 2014, 08:30 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

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did they send you an email they were deleting it or did you notice it was gone?
the registry sends the notice to the registrar. The registrar may or may not have sent the info to the registrant.
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Old 21st May 2014, 12:33 AM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

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the registry sends the notice to the registrar. The registrar may or may not have sent the info to the registrant.
What did you do after name/s got deleted and result?
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Old 21st May 2014, 02:25 AM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

I talked to my registrar and asked them to talk to Verisign. Nothing came out of it.

I talked to a Verisign customer representative myself. When things got heated, he chose not to answer me saying instead that I had to deal with my registrar instead of going directly to them.

I told them about the other variants existing in .com and .net, about the fact that I had the domains for 4 months before they sent a notice, the fact that my registrar did not even forward the notice to me, etc. None of that worked.

In the end I lost about 5-6 domains including 动画 and 商业
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

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In the end I lost about 5-6 domains including 动画 and 商业
What language tags did you use for registration?
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Old 21st May 2014, 02:33 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

I don't think I used any.
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Old 21st May 2014, 07:08 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

That reminds me how people use to say: don't invest on a Facebook page, it's not your property, you'll never know what will FB do with it without asking you first.
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Old 22nd May 2014, 01:58 PM
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AW: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

Same here...
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

got one 女皇(queen)。com
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Old 24th May 2014, 04:44 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

So no one succeed in fighting back the names got deleted?
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Old 24th May 2014, 08:28 PM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

No one. If you want to try let me know if I can be of any help.
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Old 27th May 2014, 06:08 AM
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Re: name got deleted (with variant) - what to do?

Are these deletions being deleted because of containing characters that are no longer supported as has happened in the past with many of the symbols.. or is this strictly as it sounds because they contain variants? What is the exact basis upon which a name falls into the deletion category.. is there some list of variants or characters that they can point to and say exactly why a particular name is no longer renewable?

..so upon further reading it sounds like these would be all the domains that were previously unavailable for all those years and a recent glitch allowed them to be registered.. like 不動産.com (real estate) and others.. or are we looking at older registrations from years ago suddenly being labeled as variants and marked for deletion?
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