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idn 23rd July 2015 09:33 PM

Verisign
 
Any info on Q2 call?

idn 24th July 2015 12:04 AM

Re: Verisign
 
I can't find anything. Ugh

sbe18 24th July 2015 08:11 PM

Re: Verisign
 
http://domainnamewire.com/2015/07/24... get-screwed/
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sbe18 24th July 2015 08:15 PM

Re: Verisign
 
They decided to normal sunrise, so we are going to have to buy the matches to avoid confusion.
what a marketing cluster fuck.
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idn 24th July 2015 08:18 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sbe18 (Bericht 223264)
They decided to normal sunrise, so we are going to have to buy the matches to avoid confusion.
what a marketing cluster fuck.
Posted via Mobile Device

Fuck me. So we have first dibs at least?

IdnHost 24th July 2015 08:58 PM

Re: Verisign
 
http://domainnamewire.com/2015/07/24...o-get-screwed/

NameYourself 25th July 2015 03:08 AM

Re: Verisign
 
Sometimes the organizations we entrust to maintain any type of order, due to their one-size-fits-all mentalities instead create the very confusion and disorder they were founded to prevent in the first place. The real conversation that should be had is about ICANN. How have many of their recent decisions actually benefited the internet on a global scale, added to it's security, and overall growth?

hanidn 25th July 2015 05:27 AM

Re: Verisign
 
I will never register the .com_ equivalent_in_IDN.
It will never be popular. I mean forever...
So we are all here will ignore the .com_ equivalent_in_IDN.
WTH, whatever Verisign and ICANN do, it does not make any different at all.
The game is finished long time ago when the IDN.com are registered.


We have the IDN.IDN over here for almost four years..and it proved it is done and gone...

Jay 25th July 2015 05:27 AM

Re: Verisign
 
Clear as mud as usual.

Drewbert 25th July 2015 12:57 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Based primarily on feedback from domain name community stakeholders, we have revised our IDN launch strategy.
Community stakeholders excluding your actual customers, who have been paying renewal fees based on your past promises.

And we can't do anything about it of course, because registrants have no power in the ICANN process.

Drewbert 25th July 2015 01:06 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Looks like they've all passed PDT and will be in the root shortly.

123 25th July 2015 03:00 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Based primarily on feedback from domain name community stakeholders, we have revised our IDN launch strategy. We will offer these new IDN top-level domains as standalone domain names, subject to normal introductory availability and rights protection mechanisms, available to all new gTLDs. This revised approach will not require ICANN approval and is designed to provide end users and businesses with the greatest flexibility and, for registrars, a simple and straightforward framework to serve the market.
well the cctlds and now Verisign all screwed up by splitting IDN and ASCII now major confusion is virtually guaranteed, it weakens both .com and .IDN

once split it can not be undone. what an unnecessary terrible mess. This will haunt the internet forever. Well done.

Jay 25th July 2015 06:06 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sbe18 (Bericht 223264)
They decided to normal sunrise, so we are going to have to buy the matches to avoid confusion.
what a marketing cluster fuck.
Posted via Mobile Device

Verisign were never going to get around a standard sunrise, so no surprise there, and as long as they give current IDN.com holders priority in buying the matches post-sunrise I don't really care about forking out some extra bucks. The problem is that we have no guarantee they will offer us that opportunity.

One positive - at least we now have something of a timeline for release.

idn 25th July 2015 06:41 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Bericht 223276)
The problem is that we have no guarantee they will offer us that opportunity.

Yep, and I don't currently see a reason why they would.

IdnHost 25th July 2015 07:04 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Bericht 223276)
I don't really care about forking out some extra bucks.

Could be expensive.

Drewbert 25th July 2015 09:41 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by idn (Bericht 223277)
Yep, and I don't currently see a reason why they would.

The standard contract may even prevent it?

Avtal 25th July 2015 10:38 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbert (Bericht 223279)
The standard contract may even prevent it?

From the domainnamewire.com article:

Quote:

Reading this discussion, it seems that perhaps Verisign is just letting a normal sunrise take place before offering a sort of matching opportunity to IDN.com owners. It could look a lot like the .Porn matching program. Or Verisign might have a trick up its sleeve to keep matching domains set aside for unlocking at some time in the future.
I'm not prepared to do a google search on ".porn matching program" (seems NSFW), but from what I recall, the idea was that holders of .xxx domains were given the chance to register the equivalent .porn domains, before General Availability, but after Sunrise. If this already took place, it implies that this is something that ICANN doesn't object to.

Anyway, the incentive for Verisign to provide a one-time grandfathering opportunity is that they can afterwards say, "We tried", rather than "We lied".

Avtal

P.S. The domainnamewire.com article has been updated to include a new content-free statement from Verisign, and some more thoughts by Andrew.

tee1 25th July 2015 11:09 PM

Re: Verisign
 
Here is what I found on the .porn matching.
1. trademark holders first
2) XXX Sunrise B applicants (Not sure what this is or how they identified them, why were they sunrise apps with xxx?).
3) domain matching
4) general available.

Not sure its all bad, I am not feeling great we always seem to get screwed but I am glad that it seems the waiting will be over.


http://www.icmregistry.com/programs/launch-phases/

1. MARCH 02 TO APRIL 01 2015
TMCH Sunrise
If you have a registered trademark in the Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH) you are eligible to participate in this phase.

2. APRIL 06 TO APRIL 30 2015
Sunrise B (CLOSED)
This priority registration period is for 2011. XXX Sunrise B applicants.

3. MAY 06 TO MAY 31 2015
Domain Matching (CLOSED)
This priority registration period is for 2011 .XXX Sunrise applicants AND for .XXX domain name holders. Domain Matching gives Sunrise B and existing .XXX holders (as of April 30, 2015) a priority registration opportunity to help ensure brand consistency in our new TLDs.

4. June 04 2015
General Availability
Open registration starts on June 4th, 2015 at 12:00 EST / 16:00 UTC. Each domain name and TLD can be registered and sold separately.

tee1 25th July 2015 11:27 PM

Re: Verisign
 
So it looks like 1 and 2 went to trademark holders (any country is a little bit concerning, can I get a trademark for секс in Japan and エロ in Russia)??? Short timeframe should help.

Sunrise A for .xxx went to those inside the adult entertainment industry

Sunrise B for .xxx went to those trademark owners from outside the adult
entertainment industry can apply to reserve (and thus block others from registering) .xxx domain names corresponding to their registered trademarks. The trademark can be registered in any country, and there are a few instances where the trademark in the reservation request may differ from the registered trademark
(e.g., spaces and certain characters such as “&” and “@” appearing in the registered trademark may be removed or replaced with hyphens).

Rubber Duck 26th July 2015 09:37 AM

Re: Verisign
 
My guess is under the radar. No publicity except to idn dot com owners by email. Possibly limited number of registrars.

But the biggy will be strict time limit on registration of TMs to srop gaming. Conceivably back as far as 2008. The may also be able to exclude generic terms.

I would guess crosslinking of registries can be overridden for sunrise only.


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