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Old 27th July 2015, 05:28 PM
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.コム appears in the Root Zone Database

http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

.コム generic VeriSign Sarl


Also:

.קום generic VeriSign Sarl
.ком generic VeriSign Sarl


So, when do they start working?
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Old 28th July 2015, 04:36 AM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

Within 24 hours, I would suspect. Not in the actual root zone yet. Well spotted though!
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Old 28th July 2015, 01:33 PM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

They're live!

Code:
# dig xn--42c2d9a

; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-9+deb8u1-Debian <<>> xn--42c2d9a
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59149
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xn--42c2d9a.			IN	A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
xn--42c2d9a.		10800	IN	SOA	a5.nstld.com. info.verisign-grs.com. 1438086665 1800 900 604800 86400
Code:
# dig xn--j1aef

; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-9+deb8u1-Debian <<>> xn--j1aef
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28900
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xn--j1aef.			IN	A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
xn--j1aef.		10800	IN	SOA	a5.nstld.com. info.verisign-grs.com. 1438086791 1800 900 604800 86400
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Old 28th July 2015, 03:54 PM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

These IDN TLDs have been delegated so far, would make sense they would move forward with all of them.
Japanese.com
Chinese .net & .com
Korean .com
Arabic .com

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Old 28th July 2015, 04:48 PM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

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So, when do they start working?
At least 90 days......

http://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/defa...04aug14-en.pdf

I. TLD DELEGATED ON OR AFTER 18 AUGUST 2014
Any TLD delegated on or after 18 August 2014 (00:00 UTC) must implement the following
measures:
A. Wildcarded Controlled Interruption. For a period of at least 90 days, the registry must
implement continuous controlled interruption inserting the following records into the
TLD zone file (substituting "<TLD>" with the respective TLD):


<TLD>. 3600 IN MX 10 your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.<TLD>.
* 3600 IN MX 10 your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.<TLD>.
<TLD>. 3600 IN SRV 10 10 0 your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.<TLD>.
* 3600 IN SRV 10 10 0 your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.<TLD>.
<TLD>. 3600 IN TXT "Your DNS configuration needs immediate attention see
https://icann.org/namecollision"
* 3600 IN TXT "Your DNS configuration needs immediate attention see
https://icann.org/namecollision"
<TLD>. 3600 IN A 127.0.53.53
* 3600 IN A 127.0.53.53
ICANN will monitor and time the implementation of the measure, primarily using the
zone files that are transferred to ICANN from the registry upon delegation (per
Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement).

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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

If you look at https://twitter.com/diffroot you will see the recent gTLD additions to Root

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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

コム has now been delegated to DNS Root

http://whois.nic.コム

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Old 29th July 2015, 02:53 PM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

Domain Incite News Link:

http://domainincite.com/19024-idn-co...nIncite.com%29
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

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Damn! So, it looks like what should have been a great day for IDN.com owners, it's now another frustrating, anxious wait-and-see-what-happens-next situation?!
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Damn! So, it looks like what should have been a great day for IDN.com owners, it's now another frustrating, anxious wait-and-see-what-happens-next situation?!
Typical.
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

If you own водка.com, and somebody else owns a trademark on “водка”, the trademark owner will get the first chance to buy водка.ком.
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If you own водка.com, and somebody else owns a trademark on “водка”, the trademark owner will get the first chance to buy водка.ком.
I think I would start filing lawsuits in the event anyone is allowed to claim trademark rights on generic dictionary-words matching my IDN.coms.
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Old 29th July 2015, 04:56 PM
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

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Damn! So, it looks like what should have been a great day for IDN.com owners, it's now another frustrating, anxious wait-and-see-what-happens-next situation?!
Up to this point I blame ICANN, but if Verisign does not offer a secondary sunrise clearly they are to blame.
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

Just thinking.... (and guessing at the numbers)....

850,000 IDNs at $8 per domain, per year.

With renewal fees for 14 years

That's 850,000 X 8 X 14

Comes out to over $95,000,000
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

With a portion of that going to ICANN, of course.
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

Absolutely, Trademark law specifically excludes generics from registration, so the registration is bogus, therefore the listing in Clearing House flawed, and the Registration illegal.

Verisign know that failure that this would severely impact there reputation.

However, in ICANN's case it can only enhance it......

....as a bungling load of corrupt idiots. When is Step Blatter taking over?
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Absolutely, Trademark law specifically excludes generics from registration, so the registration is bogus, therefore the listing in Clearing House flawed, and the Registration illegal.
Not all generics are excluded. Apple, for example.

Does anyone have the TMCH list?
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Not all generics are excluded. Apple, for example.

Does anyone have the TMCH list?
Actually might have got that a bit wrong. Too much on mind at moment.

You cannot register a Generic as a Trademark for what it describes.

Trademark Clearing House is basically there to protect big business, but actually may provide a good service to those trying to Game the system. In fact knowing the way ICANN runs that job, that is probalby now the primary purpose.

TMCH list is probably fairly useless as it changes with time.
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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

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Does anyone have the TMCH list?
The TMCH list is confidential by design; the Trademark/IP lobby insisted it be kept private to prevent competitors from guessing branding strategy. Of course, each registry is given access to the TMCH during the corresponding Sunrise period, but I don't know whether they are given the full list, or whether they have to send a query to the TMCH for each Sunrise domain that is registered.

Last year DomainIncite reported that an incomplete list was accidentally leaked (see http://domainincite.com/16123-full-t...ed-by-registry), but the list has since been taken offline. And as RD mentioned, names are continuously being added to the TMCH.

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Re: .コム appears in the Root Zone Database

It's easy enough to check the TM databases of most countries using a search query, but of course not every TM would be listed on the TMCH, which I understand has to be submitted by the TM holder. So that's a shame.

Anyway, thanks for the info Avtal.

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