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Old 06-03-2006, 09:04 PM
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HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

Hello fellow IDNers...

I realize I haven't purchase the most popular of the "house/home/real estate" related terms... but I do believe these have some great value/potential. I am looking for native advice on the follow purchases of:

xn--fct8m.com
xn--fct8m.net
家屋.com
家屋.net

I've used many different translators and they reveal this term as:
House (In Japanese)
Home or Homes (In Chinese)

I get these results in quotes:
809,000 at google.cn
5,560,000 at google.jp
5,510,000 at google.com

466 Japan Overture
A few Chinese Overture

Regardless, this looks like it could be a great domain to develop because of all the related content in these searches... or I may possible sell these. I'm not sure yet... would have to be the right offer. Anyway, thoughts and comments are welcome... Thanks!
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Old 06-03-2006, 09:39 PM
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

If anybody wants to pay you $1 for both of them, take it and run!
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

The Japanese overture tells so much...
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

So, what does 家屋 mean? Can it be compared to 'house' vs 'domicile' or 'house' as in 'on the house' or what?
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:25 PM
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

It means house. Looks to be used in Japanese. Here are ovt mixed word uses.
466 ovt today could be significant traffic when IE7 multiplier hits so don't give up.
Giant is telling you the Chinese dont use this term, but wait on Japanese opinion.

Here are some ovt with your term mixed, but its not a heavily searched for as an individual word.
A Japanese owns #1 below, 19k ovt, reg'd in 1995.

19484 土地 家屋 調査 士
9379 土地 家屋 調査 士 試験
1597 日本 家屋
1512 土地 家屋 調査 士 求人
1457 土地 家屋 調査 士 報酬
1445 土地 家屋 調査 士 会
1408 家屋 解体
1344 家屋 調査
953 土地 家屋 調査 士 掲示板
870 住宅 用 家屋 証明
829 土地 家屋 調査 士 法
777 家屋 評価
769 土地 家屋
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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Originally Posted by bwhhisc
It means house. Looks to be used in Japanese. Here are ovt mixed word uses.
466 ovt today could be significant traffic when IE7 multiplier hits so don't give up.
Giant is telling you the Chinese dont use this term, but wait on Japanese opinion.

Here are some ovt with your term mixed, but its not a heavily searched for as an individual word.
A Japanese owns #1 below, 19k ovt, reg'd in 1995.

19484 土地 家屋 調査 士
9379 土地 家屋 調査 士 試験
1597 日本 家屋
1512 土地 家屋 調査 士 求人
1457 土地 家屋 調査 士 報酬
1445 土地 家屋 調査 士 会
1408 家屋 解体
1344 家屋 調査
953 土地 家屋 調査 士 掲示板
870 住宅 用 家屋 証明
829 土地 家屋 調査 士 法
777 家屋 評価
769 土地 家屋
typin to the idn .com ovt would go up

but why would the term w/o extension go up? People in those countries can search in their native language and go to any URL.(minus idn.com unless they have ie 7)

That's the misconception.
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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Originally Posted by bwhhisc
It means house. Looks to be used in Japanese. Here are ovt mixed word uses.
466 ovt today could be significant traffic when IE7 multiplier hits so don't give up.
Giant is telling you the Chinese dont use this term, but wait on Japanese opinion.

Here are some ovt with your term mixed, but its not a heavily searched for as an individual word.
A Japanese owns #1 below, 19k ovt, reg'd in 1995.

19484 土地 家屋 調査 士
9379 土地 家屋 調査 士 試験
1597 日本 家屋
1512 土地 家屋 調査 士 求人
1457 土地 家屋 調査 士 報酬
1445 土地 家屋 調査 士 会
1408 家屋 解体
1344 家屋 調査
953 土地 家屋 調査 士 掲示板
870 住宅 用 家屋 証明
829 土地 家屋 調査 士 法
777 家屋 評価
769 土地 家屋
Whenever I make a comment, I always owe you an explanation. And my comment is mostly base on the Chinese meaning, although I do check Japanese dictionary first, and more than 50% Kanji keep their original Chinese meaning and usage.

Suppose the people of Hawaii discover something strange about the sand and sea water around the island, water is no more salty and sand becomes darker :-), so the government set up a team of experts to investigate. In English, we can call this investigation "Water and sand investigation", or "Water sand investigation".

In the same way in Chinese (or Japanese), "沙 和 水 調查" --> "沙水 調查".

During the investigation, we see a lot of Google results for "沙水 調查", and even some OVT for "沙水". But does it mean "沙水" is a term? And worth registering?

No, "沙水" is not a word, it can have meaning when we say "沙水 調查". And when the investigation is over, "沙水" written together will disappear from the internet.

==> "家屋 調査" will not disappear, but "家屋" itself is not a word, it's "家" + "屋".

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So, what does 家屋 mean? Can it be compared to 'house' vs 'domicile' or 'house' as in 'on the house' or what?
"家屋" means "home and house".

"土地 家屋 調査" is "land, home and house survey/investigation/examination/inquiry"

***** Note: I did a bit more research in Japanese and found the Japanese do have such term "家屋" for house or building. So it worths some money :-)
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

I like Giant's last 5-star note:

***** Note: I did a bit more research in Japanese and found the Japanese do have such term "家屋" for house or building. So it worths some money :-)

Thanks bwhhisc for your research. And Alphamale... I agree... Japanese Overture does tell so much, but it doesn't tell all.
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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I like Giant's last 5-star note:

***** Note: I did a bit more research in Japanese and found the Japanese do have such term "家屋" for house or building. So it worths some money :-)

Thanks bwhhisc for your research. And Alphamale... I agree... Japanese Overture does tell so much, but it doesn't tell all.
There are thousands of unused words in the American dictionary.


Also it is not searched for according to www.google.com/trends
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

What's all this then?...

Quote from Jeff:
...There are thousands of unused words in the American dictionary.


Also it is not searched for according to www.google.com/trends
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Good thing google.jp and 5,560,000 pages with "house" results aren't trendy.
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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What's all this then?...

Quote from Jeff:
...There are thousands of unused words in the American dictionary.


Also it is not searched for according to www.google.com/trends
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Good thing google.jp and 5,560,000 pages with "house" results aren't trendy.
just like the word "City" is used alot in chinese writing - you would see millions of results but people wouldn't say the city part out loud.

If you think you have Home .com this late in the game then good luck. The chinese natives got the primary terms a while ago.
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

[quote=grubstaker]Hello fellow IDNers...

I realize I haven't purchase the most popular of the "house/home/real estate" related terms... but I do believe these have some great value/potential.

Thanks for your comments Jeff. I stated this clearly earlier. Furthermore, I'm not talking about value of Chinese name (which does merit value also)... I'm speaking mainly on the Japanese side... and this being a dual name only adds more value.
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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I realize I haven't purchase the most popular of the "house/home/real estate" related terms... but I do believe these have some great value/potential.
If the native speakers say it is NOT of great value, and even you admit it not the most popular term, then it is no use believing it is of great value or potential. Don't be stubborn. Admit your mistakes, move on and register better things.

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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

So are you selling or not?
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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If the native speakers say it is NOT of great value, and even you admit it not the most popular term, then it is no use believing it is of great value or potential. Don't be stubborn. Admit your mistakes, move on and register better things.
Whoa there blastfromthepast... Is Jeff native?... even so #'s don't lie... sounds like we've got some contaversy percentage splits... some agree some don't...
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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Whoa there blastfromthepast... Is Jeff native?... even so #'s don't lie... sounds like we've got some contaversy percentage splits... some agree some don't...
Google 562 for "Grubstaker".
Google 4,950,000 for "Blast from the Past".
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

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Google 562 for "Grubstaker".
Google 4,950,000 for "Blast from the Past".

That was pretty clever lol :P...

And 5,560,000 for 家屋 at google.jp!
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Re: HUGE GENERIC or tiny imitation... House.com/Homes.com? (In Japanese and Chinese)

To give you a picture of how popular is this term. Compare it with "house" and "building" by Google Trends.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E3%8...o=all&date=all
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