IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names  
Home | Advertise on idnforums | Premium Membership

Go Back   IDN Forums - Internationalized Domain Names > IDN Discussions > General Discussion

General Discussion Feel free to talk about anything and everything in this board.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 9th March 2016, 11:48 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,353
iTrader: (29)
Rep Power: 1272
htmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished road
.コム

I'm a bit confused about .コム

As current holders of IDN.com in Japanese, do we need to pre-register the IDN.コム soon or as IDN.com owners do we have the IDN.コム equivalent blocked from anyone else registering it until we decide to register IDN.コム sometime in the future?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 9th March 2016, 11:52 AM
Jay's Avatar
Jay Jay is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Where angels fear to tread
Posts: 1,303
iTrader: (23)
Rep Power: 1702
Jay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enough
Re: .コム

From what is known, you have priority access to register the .コム during the domain matching period lasting two months. No pre-order is required.

Priority Access Program Period: March 15 – May 15, 2016
__________________
________________________________________________________________

IDN.enterprises - buying, selling, brokering IDNs
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 9th March 2016, 07:59 PM
Drewbert's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,091
iTrader: (20)
Rep Power: 0
Drewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgy
Re: .コム

That is my understanding, too.

You have to register it at the Registrar the matching .com is currently registered at.

I'd be wary of transferring a Japanese [IDN].com to a different registrar after 15 March as that might confuse the registrar's system that identifies legacy domains and you might have trouble proving that domain has priority access status.
__________________
It's all jaded style to me.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10th March 2016, 01:28 AM
Drewbert's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,091
iTrader: (20)
Rep Power: 0
Drewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgyDrewbert is a tad dodgy
Re: .コム

https://www.dynadot.com/domain/コム.html
__________________
It's all jaded style to me.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10th March 2016, 07:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 139
iTrader: (3)
Rep Power: 340
mxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbert View Post
That is my understanding, too.

You have to register it at the Registrar the matching .com is currently registered at.

I'd be wary of transferring a Japanese [IDN].com to a different registrar after 15 March as that might confuse the registrar's system that identifies legacy domains and you might have trouble proving that domain has priority access status.

Does this mean I need to transfer my japanese.com from Name.com to Dynadot.com ASAP?
__________________
Note: All sales will expire within 4 weeks of my last post on the sales thread. All unsold domains will be withdrawn without further notice.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10th March 2016, 03:15 PM
Jay's Avatar
Jay Jay is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Where angels fear to tread
Posts: 1,303
iTrader: (23)
Rep Power: 1702
Jay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enoughJay will become famous soon enough
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by mxfusion View Post
Does this mean I need to transfer my japanese.com from Name.com to Dynadot.com ASAP?
Name.com has joined the party: https://www.name.com/domains/xn--tckwe. So no need to transfer.
__________________
________________________________________________________________

IDN.enterprises - buying, selling, brokering IDNs
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 06:48 AM
sbe18's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,338
iTrader: (10)
Rep Power: 1649
sbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enoughsbe18 will become famous soon enough
Re: .コム

why can't they publish what the prices are ?
try to market them as the same idea as dot com, but price them like an Ebay executive on crack...
thanks...
s/
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 06:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 139
iTrader: (3)
Rep Power: 340
mxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay View Post
Name.com has joined the party: https://www.name.com/domains/xn--tckwe. So no need to transfer.

Great to hear that.
__________________
Note: All sales will expire within 4 weeks of my last post on the sales thread. All unsold domains will be withdrawn without further notice.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 10:45 AM
123 123 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 785
iTrader: (5)
Rep Power: 476
123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbe18 View Post
why can't they publish what the prices are ?
try to market them as the same idea as dot com, but price them like an Ebay executive on crack...
thanks...
s/
Well i have to defend Verisign a bit here. The pricing looks a bit crude and random but it is mostly not the predatory pricing that we could see with other extensions.

Aids.sucks was priced at $1 million/per year while Aidssucks.com was still available to register.

They are smarter than their competitors and try to create a reasonable long term extension not the pump and dump hype that we have seen from others.

It could have been much worse. Most of the screw-ups that we have seen were from ICANN not Verisign. They did want to do aliasing but ICANN would not let them.

Do you want to buy vodka.horse for $3500/year? VodkaHorse.com costs $10/year.

https://www.dynadot.com/domain/searc...in=vodka.horse

So i think IDNers and the internet are lucky that we didn't have other guys running .IDN
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 01:28 PM
clipper's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Office
Posts: 1,003
iTrader: (26)
Rep Power: 3118
clipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the roughclipper is a jewel in the rough
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by 123 View Post
Do you want to buy vodka.horse for $3500/year?
That's a reseller's/domainer's price, not the registry's. vodka.horse has been registered since November.
__________________
;-)
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 02:09 PM
123 123 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 785
iTrader: (5)
Rep Power: 476
123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by clipper View Post
That's a reseller's/domainer's price, not the registry's. vodka.horse has been registered since November.
that would have been even worse

but look at the WHOIS info and see who the reseller is.

http://whois.domaintools.com/vodka.horse

I think it is M&M domain selling division.

if you want to buy a truly premium keyword like hosting.horse(makes a lot of sense, a hosting company for horses) that will cost you $3000/year

https://www.dynadot.com/domain/searc...=hosting.horse

Laptop.horse another "gem" will cost you another $3k.

Last edited by 123; 11th March 2016 at 02:21 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 02:40 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 139
iTrader: (3)
Rep Power: 340
mxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished roadmxfusion is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by 123 View Post
Well i have to defend Verisign a bit here. The pricing looks a bit crude and random but it is mostly not the predatory pricing that we could see with other extensions.

Aids.sucks was priced at $1 million/per year while Aidssucks.com was still available to register.

They are smarter than their competitors and try to create a reasonable long term extension not the pump and dump hype that we have seen from others.

It could have been much worse. Most of the screw-ups that we have seen were from ICANN not Verisign. They did want to do aliasing but ICANN would not let them.

Do you want to buy vodka.horse for $3500/year? VodkaHorse.com costs $10/year.

https://www.dynadot.com/domain/searc...in=vodka.horse

So i think IDNers and the internet are lucky that we didn't have other guys running .IDN
.sucks is really ingenious.

https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=microsoft.sucks

Verisign got one also!

https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=verisign.sucks
__________________
Note: All sales will expire within 4 weeks of my last post on the sales thread. All unsold domains will be withdrawn without further notice.

Last edited by mxfusion; 11th March 2016 at 02:48 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 11th March 2016, 04:08 PM
Steve Clarke's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,081
iTrader: (23)
Rep Power: 1261
Steve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enoughSteve Clarke will become famous soon enough
Re: .コム

ICANN may have been the main cause of delays, but whose bending us over on Premium pricing? Haven't we done enough for these greedy bastards?
__________________
All Offers Automatically Expire After 2 weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 12:02 AM
Rubber Duck's Avatar
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Czech Republic (For those of you from USA = Chechnya)
Posts: 15,929
iTrader: (59)
Rep Power: 4516
Rubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura about
Re: .コム

$12.99 Dynadot.

SUPERBULK $11.99
__________________
All offers to sell are void.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 09:45 AM
Rubber Duck's Avatar
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Czech Republic (For those of you from USA = Chechnya)
Posts: 15,929
iTrader: (59)
Rep Power: 4516
Rubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura aboutRubber Duck has a spectacular aura about
Re: .コム

Dear Chinese Domains Limited,

We have had many inquiries regarding the launch of .コム, the Japanese Katakana version of .COM being launched by Verisign. Since you own IDNs on .COM, we thought you might be interested in this new TLD, which starting 3/15/16 00:00 UTC will be entering a special Priority Access Period.

During this Priority Access Period, customers who currently own a .COM domain name in any language will be eligible to register that same domain name on .コム. The only requirement is that the .COM domain name must be registered prior to the start of the Priority Access Period and that the domain name is no longer eligible for grace deletion.

There is no additional fee to register your domain during Priority Access. Super Bulk pricing will be $11.99/year.

The Priority Access Period will be followed by a Landrush starting 5/15/16 00:00 UTC. Then, general availability will begin 6/13/16 00:00 UTC.

Verisign will also be launching different versions of .COM in several additional languages; however, they have not announced any information on them at this time.

Best,
Team Dynadot
dynadot.com
__________________
All offers to sell are void.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 02:35 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,353
iTrader: (29)
Rep Power: 1272
htmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished roadhtmlindex is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubber Duck View Post
Dear Chinese Domains Limited,

We have had many inquiries regarding the launch of .コム, the Japanese Katakana version of .COM being launched by Verisign. Since you own IDNs on .COM, we thought you might be interested in this new TLD, which starting 3/15/16 00:00 UTC will be entering a special Priority Access Period.

During this Priority Access Period, customers who currently own a .COM domain name in any language will be eligible to register that same domain name on .コム. The only requirement is that the .COM domain name must be registered prior to the start of the Priority Access Period and that the domain name is no longer eligible for grace deletion.

There is no additional fee to register your domain during Priority Access. Super Bulk pricing will be $11.99/year.

The Priority Access Period will be followed by a Landrush starting 5/15/16 00:00 UTC. Then, general availability will begin 6/13/16 00:00 UTC.

Verisign will also be launching different versions of .COM in several additional languages; however, they have not announced any information on them at this time.

Best,
Team Dynadot
dynadot.com
So with Dynadot any IDN.コム we register which we already own IDN.com in Japanese will all be $11.99/year as the best price? That's like a 50% increase in price from the current IDN.com domains we own

So if current IDN.com owners don't register IDN.コムby date 6/13/16 00:00 UTC then anyone can register IDN.コムso there will be 2 different owners for the same IDN.com & IDN.コム

Last edited by htmlindex; 12th March 2016 at 02:39 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 03:00 PM
squirrel's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,940
iTrader: (11)
Rep Power: 7089
squirrel is a name known to all
squirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to allsquirrel is a name known to all
Re: .コム

thx RD
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 05:30 PM
domainguru's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,835
iTrader: (14)
Rep Power: 2523
domainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura aboutdomainguru has a spectacular aura about
Re: .コム

So no premium pricing for us ?? By "us" I am referring to .com holders of course

Last edited by domainguru; 12th March 2016 at 05:33 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 05:51 PM
123 123 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 785
iTrader: (5)
Rep Power: 476
123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road123 is on a distinguished road
Re: .コム

Quote:
Originally Posted by domainguru View Post
So no premium pricing for us ?? By "us" I am referring to .com holders of course
I would like to know this also. I checked with 101domains and they list premium prices even for Priority Access Period. I asked them about premium pricing in general not necessarily PAP and the only reply i got that some names cost more than others but they didn't say if that was set by the registry.

It seems depending on who you ask you get a different reply. Not sure if anyone knows anything.

We will find out soon I would say.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 12th March 2016, 07:11 PM
DktoInc's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Land of the Loon
Posts: 1,583
iTrader: (2)
Rep Power: 2177
DktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura aboutDktoInc has a spectacular aura about
Re: .コム

and then there are renewals, also an unknown
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:29 AM.

Site Sponsors
Your ad here
buy t-shirt
מחיר הזהב

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright idnforums.com 2005

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54