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Old 15th March 2016, 03:28 AM
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

That's it! I've come to the end of my patience!!!

So, now, I must turn to alcohol.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

Haha, refrain from making any new .コム registrations while consuming.. you could wake up tomorrow with a whopping 6 new names in your account but 100k poorer.. perhaps that was all part of Verisign's plan from the beginning!
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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So is it a delay just at Dynadot, or a system-wide delay?
I would say it is Dynadot have not got our portfolios linked into the registration programme. It is like we don't own anything.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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"The launch for the .コム will be working later today but the premium information may take longer time. I do apologize for the inconvenience, we are woking on that and expect to get these information as soon as possible."
The only thing with Dynadot is they do seem to constantly develop their site, so they will probably be able to do this. Some of the smaller registrars probably had it all done ten years ago by a man they met in a pub whose liver packed up some time ago.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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so it's not reg-fee?

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This TLD supports premium domains. Please note that premium domains have different pricing.
Ok but maybe tell us what the prices are? Are they 'secret'?

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I would say it is Dynadot have not got our portfolios linked into the registration programme. It is like we don't own anything.
I was clearly wrong. As the end of the Priority Access has been extended that authority could only have come from Verisign, and they would have needed ICANN's permission if the front end had also not been moved keeping the two month fixed duration. Of course we know that the reason for the move is because they could not comply with posted start, but it is now obvious that the delay is at the Verisign end, although as the most important registrar in this phase Dynadot could still be implicated.

Difference between Dynadot and 101 seems to be the level of integration with Verisign API. Dynadot would appear to be an online operation whereas 101 appears to be more back office.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

Another possibility is that Verisign had their minds changed for them, which may explain the chaos. A series of injunctions cannot be ruled out, with late night meetings between the Legal Elite and the poor sod who manages the Servers.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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As the end of the Priority Access has been extended that authority could only have come from Verisign, and they would have needed ICANN's permission if the front end had also not been moved keeping the two month fixed duration. Of course we know that the reason for the move is because they could not comply with posted start, but it is now obvious that the delay is at the Verisign end, although as the most important registrar in this phase Dynadot could still be implicated.
My guess is that there are bugs or some kind of technical screw-ups that no one expected so they had to extend the period for another month.

Part of the problem could be the premium pricing integration. It's much more difficult to implement if you have variable prices that can change any time without warning.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

Well the obvious solution would be to drop the Premium Pricing nonsense.

Like anyone is going to start shelling out megabucks, when frankly Verisigns legal authority to do this is shaky at best.

It is going to take the establishment of several legal precedences for anyone to be interested in that kind of investment. Existing dot com holders are not likely to stump up for something they feel has been stolen from them.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

For 15 years I supported the "test bed". Invested thousands of dollars over the years in reg fees!

Have no intention paying "premium" to what was promised. Will look into legal action.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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Well the obvious solution would be to drop the Premium Pricing nonsense.

Like anyone is going to start shelling out megabucks, when frankly Verisigns legal authority to do this is shaky at best.

It is going to take the establishment of several legal precedences for anyone to be interested in that kind of investment. Existing dot com holders are not likely to stump up for something they feel has been stolen from them.
My guess is: The main reason for premium pricing was not that they needed the money but that everyone else was doing it so they had to make use of it to not "fall behind" their competition. This and it probably makes the shareholders happy so see. Not that it has any real world significance.
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For 15 years I supported the "test bed". Invested thousands of dollars over the years in reg fees!

Have no intention paying "premium" to what was promised. Will look into legal action.
The crux of the issue was that ICANN broke their own recommendations about not having orally confusing TLDs to establish this TLD in the first place. It went through largely because it was understood that it would not exist as a separate TLD, and of course then they insisted it must be.

Verisign initially took the moral high ground and offered everything to existing domain holders but somewhere along the way lost their moral compass and decided to profit from Intellectual Property that was not their to sell.

There is plenty of scope for legal action. The question is who should be taking them on? And how?
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The crux of the issue was that ICANN broke their own recommendations about not having orally confusing TLDs to establish this TLD in the first place. It went through largely because it was understood that it would not exist as a separate TLD, and of course then they insisted it must be.

Verisign initially took the moral high ground and offered everything to existing domain holders but somewhere along the way lost their moral compass and decided to profit from Intellectual Property that was not their to sell.

There is plenty of scope for legal action. The question is who should be taking them on? And how?
Could we invite a lawyer to the chat to respond? Anyone has a contact?

My domains are in Hebrew and all premium! Will need to mortgage my house if I register them.

This launch will create a precedence for ALL future .IDN domains.
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For 15 years I supported the "test bed". Invested thousands of dollars over the years in reg fees!

Have no intention paying "premium" to what was promised. Will look into legal action.
I haven't been posting but have been on the forum literally everyday for at least one month.

Are you saying that we have to fucking shell out "premium bucks" for some domains, even with priority? Are these guys for real?

Someone for the love of fucking humanity figure out something regarding suing these thieves. I'm absolutely sick and tired of waiting for this bullshit.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

Until we get our IDNs in a properly-functioning shopping cart, do we really know there will be premium pricing? In the priority access period?

Verisign and Dynadot will not or cannot give the answer yet.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

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Could we invite a lawyer to the chat to respond? Anyone has a contact?

My domains are in Hebrew and all premium! Will need to mortgage my house if I register them.

This launch will create a precedence for ALL future .IDN domains.
Let's do this:

Can you write a quick post on this thread summing up the history and the current position.

meanwhile I'll reach out to Zak @ DNattorney, and see if he can pass comment on your post here.
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Let's do this:

Can you write a quick post on this thread summing up the history and the current position.

meanwhile I'll reach out to Zak @ DNattorney, and see if he can pass comment on your post here.
Great! Please ask Zak to comment. If we have a ground to sue, than we should.

Let him put injunction to stop any selling of "our" .IDN's. It might be more complicated once the names are registered by someone else because we didn't elect to pay premium.
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Great! Please ask Zak to comment. If we have a ground to sue, than we should.

Let him put injunction to stop any selling of "our" .IDN's. It might be more complicated once the names are registered by someone else because we didn't elect to pay premium.
Assume Zak doesn't know anything. Can you or someone please summarize the position.
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Re: New Time for Dynadot .コム

Are IDN .com owners about to get screwed?
http://domainnamewire.com/2015/07/24...o-get-screwed/

Verisign reconfirms IDN transliteration plans, provides more details
http://domainnamewire.com/2013/07/14...-more-details/

http://domainnamewire.com/wp-content...11jul13-en.pdf

http://domainnamewire.com/2011/07/07...tlds-and-idns/
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