.닷컴 and .닷넷 coming down the pike

[123]

3- everyone in Korea is comfortable with .KR, .CO.KR, and .COM so

They do have also an .IDN I think which could be better compared to this one.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 123

They do have also an .IDN I think which could be better compared to this one.

Yeah .한국, but it's expensive

That said, the premium pricing with these Verisign domains is beyond a joke.

[123]

Originally Posted by Jay

Yeah .한국, but it's expensive

That said, the premium pricing with these Verisign domains is beyond a joke.

it would be more acceptable if it were for the "real" korean .com not for dotdotcom.

This one fails the radio test IMO. Visit dotdotcom now.

You will lose traffic to .com and to .컴 or ...컴 or ..com and confuse your visitors.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 123

Visit dotdotcom now.

They might think the announcer has a stutter

[clipper]

Originally Posted by Drewbert

I forked out the $172.50 extortion fee for 휴대폰, still deciding whether to do the same for 캐나다. The rest of mine (all 10 of them) were base reg, so must suck majorly.

They seem to have a closer approximation to what we consider "premium" Korean names than they did with Japanese. Country names in Japanese are not premium in .コム.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by clipper

They seem to have a closer approximation to what we consider "premium" Korean names than they did with Japanese. Country names in Japanese are not premium in .コム.

Well, if they had Korean's doing the Japanese, then presumably they did not go for Japanese doing the Korean.

[idnowner]

Originally Posted by 123

it would be more acceptable if it were for the "real" korean .com not for dotdotcom.

This one fails the radio test IMO. Visit dotdotcom now.

You will lose traffic to .com and to .컴 or ...컴 or ..com and confuse your visitors.

Attention Korean Radio Announcers, please pronounce ".닷컴" as:

"punctuation mark dot, word dot, com"

[Jay]

Originally Posted by idnowner

"punctuation mark dot, word dot, com"

Worse than that actually. "Punctuation mark dot, Korean word for dot, Korean sound for com"

[idnowner]

Originally Posted by Jay

Worse than that actually. "Punctuation mark dot, Korean word for dot, Korean sound for com"

Thanks for the correction, Jay.

Perhaps Verisign should have come up with something that made better sense.

Such as .오리너구리

[domainsell]

Verisign is turning idn.com names into worthless phishing sites. When 2 people own versions of the same name that name is worthless imo. What company would invest a penny in a name that has the idn.idn version owned by someone else?????
Verisign just killed the income stream that has fed it for years. Colossal f#ck@p, the bunch over at Verisign are IDIOTS!!! Great job pinheads!!!!!! You killed idn.com!!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!!!

I wonder what the "Snow's" premium pricing bill is. Millions probably for the idn.idn names they already control in idn.com. Nasty business. Verisign should be shut down for trying to extort this money from existing registrants.

[Rubber Duck]

Yeah, probably the only way back from here is a string of UDRPs handing the new version straight over to the original registrants. Of course that doesn't really get Verisign off the hook. The word Fraud spring to mind.

[domainsell]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Yeah, probably the only way back from here is a string of UDRPs handing the new version straight over to the original registrants. Of course that doesn't really get Verisign off the hook. The word Fraud spring to mind.

That's a good idea and Verisign can pay all of the udrp fees. They obviously are unable to manage the names properly.

[123]

Originally Posted by domainsell

That's a good idea and Verisign can pay all of the udrp fees. They obviously are unable to manage the names properly.

I think it is mostly ICANN's fault.

ICANN:

-Refusing to allow bundling of IDN.com and IDN.IDN
-Prohibiting 1 char .IDN
-Releasing 1000 extensions and allowing registries to premium price without any regulation

Verisign:

-Making use of premium pricing
- Screwing up japanese launch

Without ICANN none of this would have ever happened. With bundling they would likely never have thought of using premium pricing and without the NGTLDs it wouldn't have been common practice.

I think most of what ICANN did was directly or indirectly caused by their sell-out program, the nGTLDs. They sold out and damaged everything in the process including IDN.

It's not just IDN that got damaged. The DNS is a chaos, we have an every growing number of extensions that no one needs. Most of the money in nGTLD so far is in ripping-off overly protective TM holders forcing them to register their mark in any .horseshit that is available, selling overpriced "premium" junk and selling lottery tickets to domainers. All made possible by ICANN.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 123

I think it is mostly ICANN's fault.

ICANN are the culprits for sure. Everything Verisign are doing was made permissible by ICANN who threw out the protections to .com holders that Verisign originally proposed to ensure.

UDRP? Not unless you are trademark holder.

[domainsell]

What's with the "premium" pricing. They do have control over that and guess what they decide to do? F#ck the registrants that have been paying their dinner bill for over a decade. A real classy bunch over there..........

[123]

Originally Posted by domainsell

What's with the "premium" pricing. They do have control over that and guess what they decide to do? F#ck the registrants that have been paying their dinner bill for over a decade. A real classy bunch over there..........

Public company. They did it not because they needed the money but to make the shareholders happy. With the 7 Billion market cap they don't need the few 100k they might make with premium prices.

They wanted to show how well run they are and how they are not falling behind the nGTLDs and to cover expenses of their .IDN program.

The shareholders probably thought: great management they are not leaving money on the table.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 123

They wanted to show how well run they are and how they are not falling behind the nGTLDs and to cover expenses of their .IDN program

Exactly. Any loss on their .IDNs would be financially immaterial, but it would signal a misstep to their shareholders.

[sbe18]

I really think each IDNer here needs to contribute their portfolio theories to help veterans and new members to proceed into 2017 and further.

When I started IDNs in 2007, I really thought Chinese would take off in 2009, based on the PRC govt using IDN.IDN for government sites in the short term.

I even thought cctld IDN.IDN in Japan and Korea would follow China by 2010 or so.

I thought Arabic and Russian IDN's would gain popularity with proof in cctld use.

At this point, I still think Arabic and Russian are important and relevant markets if
my modest portfolios in these 2 avoid premium punishment.

RE: China.

I am looking at culling the herd one more time. But adding IDN.cn and IDN.IDN's of dot zhongguo and dot gongsi to match a few of my dot com IDN.com's.

I am pondering whether having a trio of com/CN/zhongguo for a premium term is a fair play rather then taking $13,000 flyers on CJK idn.idn's that Verisign is pissing on.

[clipper]

Originally Posted by sbe18

]I am pondering whether having a trio of com/CN/zhongguo for a premium term is a fair play rather then taking $13,000 flyers on CJK idn.idn's that Verisign is pissing on.

I would do that before paying any premium to Verisign. My plan is only to reg non-premiums going forward. I only regged one so far, and it was refunded.

[Rubber Duck]

Verisign needs a clear Fail
China will be that Fail.