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Old 20th June 2016, 11:43 PM
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Dynadot - new IDN filter

Part of my attempt to make it easier to bulk-register priority IDN's, Dynadot has added an "IDN Filter" to the domain management interface, allowing you to display IDN's of particular character classes.

It's my hope that soon, if you (say) select Arabic, all your Arabic .coms will appear, and there will be an additional column showing the price of the corresponding .كوم and a checkbox alongside, allowing you to check the .كوم's you want to register and bulk register the lot at once.

If you like this idea, it might be worthwhile dropping a note to a support@ letting them know that you would use the feature.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Hi Drewbert - We're glad you like our new IDN Filter feature. We have passed your idea on to our team to see if it's something that makes sense for us to add. We can't guarantee it'll be added, but we wanted to let you know that we have seen your post.

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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Thanks for adding the extra character classes to the IDN filter.

Fingers crossed the other request gets approved! :^)

Have you heard anything from Verisign regarding what language IDN.IDN they'll release next?
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

You're welcome! We're glad to hear it's a hit.

We haven't heard any announcements from Verisign about their other language domain extensions yet, but we know they have more coming up. We will be attending an event put on by them early next month and hopefully will have more info after that. We'll check back in here once we know more!
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You're welcome! We're glad to hear it's a hit.

We haven't heard any announcements from Verisign about their other language domain extensions yet, but we know they have more coming up. We will be attending an event put on by them early next month and hopefully will have more info after that. We'll check back in here once we know more!
Hey Dynadot,

We're seeing highly competitive pricing from your foreign competitors in the IDN nGTLDs from Verisign. In Japan, Onamae is giving them away at about $0.30 apiece (which basically covers ICANN fees); in Korea, we're seeing pricing at around $4.50 for the pair (dotcom and dotnet at 5000 KRW) at hosting.kr.

Can you folks inquire with Verisign if they're offering promotional pricing to certain registrars? Can they make similar arrangements with you?

It's possible that the registrars are taking a bath on these, but I find it unlikely that they aren't being given some sort of push from above.

From a registrant standpoint, there's no reason to keep my domains with you, since your foreign competitors offer such favorable pricing.

As the second-largest registrar for .コム (largely due to us), you're going to have some pull with them, as well as market insight, to open up and maybe make a similar offer for upcoming launches.

I am certain that if their launches thus far had worldwide promotional pricing similar to what we're seeing in Korea and Japan that registrations would be deep into the tens of thousands for both Korean and Japanese in the few short months they have been available, and momentum would only be building for their upcoming launches.

Thanks for your time.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Thanks for letting us know, clipper. We definitely want to offer competitive pricing to our customers and will discuss with Verisign to see if there is anything we can do for our IDN TLDs.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Good news! We are lowering our 1 year registration prices for Japanese .COM to $6.99 and lowering our prices for Korean .COM & .NET to $7.99 starting 9/15 EDT. This special pricing will go until the end of the month for Japanese .COM and the end of the year for the Korean TLDs.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Thanks for that. There's only one problem.

99% of our (idnforum board members) registrations are done during the "Priority Access Period". For .コム and .닷컴 and .닷넷, many of us have done all the registering we're going to do. The premium pricing that Verisign charged it's #1 fan base really knocked the stuffing out of us - I for one did NOT register many of the domains I had priority access to because of the ridiculous registration prices.

Perhaps you could negotiate the above prices with verisign for the NEXT launch, and also try to convince them to leave the premium pricing rort out of the system until AFTER the priority access period has ended? We have, after all, been registering the .com/net versions for nearly 10 years, waiting for these launched to finally take place. (You are welcome to look up my dynadot account to see how much I have spent in IDN's waiting for the launch only to be slapped in the face by Verisign with Premium Pricing).

Let's hear a "+1" from all who agree...

(Also, please read http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3535...-the-pike.html for background if you haven't already.)
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

+1

By far the biggest barrier to litigation over the Premium Domains is Versign's failure to prove they are even worth Reg Fee.

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Thanks for that. There's only one problem.

99% of our (idnforum board members) registrations are done during the "Priority Access Period". For .コム and .닷컴 and .닷넷, many of us have done all the registering we're going to do. The premium pricing that Verisign charged it's #1 fan base really knocked the stuffing out of us - I for one did NOT register many of the domains I had priority access to because of the ridiculous registration prices.

Perhaps you could negotiate the above prices with verisign for the NEXT launch, and also try to convince them to leave the premium pricing rort out of the system until AFTER the priority access period has ended? We have, after all, been registering the .com/net versions for nearly 10 years, waiting for these launched to finally take place. (You are welcome to look up my dynadot account to see how much I have spent in IDN's waiting for the launch only to be slapped in the face by Verisign with Premium Pricing).

Let's hear a "+1" from all who agree...

(Also, please read http://www.idnforums.com/forums/3535...-the-pike.html for background if you haven't already.)
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Thanks for the info, Drewbert et al. We did receive similar feedback from other IDN customers after the launches and we did pass this on to Verisign. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do about their premium prices, but I will definitely bring this up with them again at the event in October.

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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

You're welcome! We also wanted to let everyone know that we just removed the language drop down from our IDN search. Our system will now automatically detect the language for you.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

Thanks for that. Here's a suggestion to improve things even further.

Currently, if I go to IDN search and search a Korean string, the order things come back in are:

com, net, org, gdn, live, online, website, co, global, xyz

because those are the default search TLDs even for IDN's.

Please scrap those defaults - gdn is a joke "global domain name" a stretch of the imagination. .global doesn't even offer IDN. ,xyz, well what can I say?

All those ASCII's are allowing IDN registrations in the 2nd level purely for profit reasons, not to offer the Internet user anything in the way of security and/or stability.

How about, when you detect the language, for Korean, offer .닷컴 and .닷넷 FIRST along with any other Korean newGTLD's (are there any)?

With Japanese, offer .コム first.

For Cyrillic, .орг .сайт should be first on the list, until Verisign launch the .com equivalent.

etc etc.

Offering ASCII TLD's in front of IDN TLD's just makes a joke of the whole reason for having IDN's in the first place.
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Re: Dynadot - new IDN filter

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Thanks for that. Here's a suggestion to improve things even further.

Currently, if I go to IDN search and search a Korean string, the order things come back in are:

com, net, org, gdn, live, online, website, co, global, xyz

because those are the default search TLDs even for IDN's.

Please scrap those defaults - gdn is a joke "global domain name" a stretch of the imagination. .global doesn't even offer IDN. ,xyz, well what can I say?

All those ASCII's are allowing IDN registrations in the 2nd level purely for profit reasons, not to offer the Internet user anything in the way of security and/or stability.

How about, when you detect the language, for Korean, offer .닷컴 and .닷넷 FIRST along with any other Korean newGTLD's (are there any)?

With Japanese, offer .コム first.

For Cyrillic, .орг .сайт should be first on the list, until Verisign launch the .com equivalent.

etc etc.

Offering ASCII TLD's in front of IDN TLD's just makes a joke of the whole reason for having IDN's in the first place.

Couldn't have said it better myself! +1
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